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Schedule tasks on the web
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Re: Schedule tasks on the web
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I agree we don't have any methodologies for this, it's also true that we can just "fail" more often. Code is effectively becoming cheap, which means even bad design decisions can be overturned without prohibitive costs. I wouldn't be surprised if in a couple of years we see several projects that approach the problem of tech debt like this: 1. Instruct AI to write tens of thousands of tests by using available in…
> Code is effectively becoming cheap, which means even bad design decisions can be overturned without prohibitive costs. I'm sorry, but only someone who never maintained software long-term would say something like this. The further along you are in development, the magnitude of costs related to changing that increases, maybe even exponentially. Correct the design before you even wrote code, might be 100x cheaper (or…
I've never maintained software long-term so i could be wrong, but I interpret "code is cheap" to mean that you can have coding agents refactor or rewrite the project from scratch around the design correction. I don't think 'code is cheap' ever should be interpreted to mean ship hacky code.
I think using agents to prototype code and design will be a big thing. Have the agent write out what you want, come back with what works and what doesn't, write a new spec, toss out the old code and and have a fresh agent start again. Spec-driven development is the new hotness, but we know that the best spec is code, have the agent write the spec in code, rewrite the spec in natural language, then iterate.
Re: Schedule tasks on the web
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? As a user of these tools, I love the convenience factor of having one tool rather than wrangling dozens. It's why in the past I've used an IDE (JetBrains), a language created by the provider of the IDE (Kotlin), web framework created by the same people (ktor), etc.
This is very different to a framework, language or IDE. More comparable to apple or amazon trying to create corporate anti competitive hellscapes of enslaved users that have no agency, no dignity and no real choice, reduced to rent extraction targets. Just with much more dire consequences and much more at stake. We still have the power to make ai providers have no moat and be interchangeable commodity. But we have to…
From an outside perspective, this sounds hyperbolic. I don’t know why task scheduling would be a part of a war.
In fact, I re-read the article before submitting this comment just to make sure I wasn’t missing something. What on earth is so polarizing about a prompt being run recurrently? It’s a long-awaited feature that I’ve personally needed.
If you want to win your war, you’ll need better propaganda to recruit people. Start with me. My mind is open. Why should I join?
Please tie your claims concretely to this new feature. I’m interested in how adding this could erode open source software. To me they seem completely independent, and it’s a welcome change.
Re: Schedule tasks on the web
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is very different to a framework, language or IDE. More comparable to apple or amazon trying to create corporate anti competitive hellscapes of enslaved users that have no agency, no dignity and no real choice, reduced to rent extraction targets. Just with much more dire consequences and much more at stake. We still have the power to make ai providers have no moat and be interchangeable commodity. But we have to…
From an outside perspective, this sounds hyperbolic. I don’t know why task scheduling would be a part of a war. In fact, I re-read the article before submitting this comment just to make sure I wasn’t missing something. What on earth is so polarizing about a prompt being run recurrently? It’s a long-awaited feature that I’ve personally needed. If you want to win your war, you’ll need better propaganda to recruit peop…
I can't remove the YouTube app off my phone. The mobile phone is a locked up landscape that hates general purpose computing that puts the owner of the device in control. In the same way the big LLM want to give you stuff for free / subsidized then become very opinionated about how you use this stuff then pave up the entire landscape and monopolize it for themselves. Screw that.
Re: Schedule tasks on the web
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wish there was a company that was easy to use but wouldn't sell out in this arena.
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Re: Schedule tasks on the web
#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is very different to a framework, language or IDE. More comparable to apple or amazon trying to create corporate anti competitive hellscapes of enslaved users that have no agency, no dignity and no real choice, reduced to rent extraction targets. Just with much more dire consequences and much more at stake. We still have the power to make ai providers have no moat and be interchangeable commodity. But we have to…
From an outside perspective, this sounds hyperbolic. I don’t know why task scheduling would be a part of a war. In fact, I re-read the article before submitting this comment just to make sure I wasn’t missing something. What on earth is so polarizing about a prompt being run recurrently? It’s a long-awaited feature that I’ve personally needed. If you want to win your war, you’ll need better propaganda to recruit peop…
We are at a war of defending control over our tools from AI companies that try to takeover any adjacent technology and anything that can be turned into a platform with lock- in effect. Subsidising subscriptions and locking people into their cli is just the start.
"A scheduled task runs a prompt on a recurring cadence using Anthropic-managed infrastructure." >> There is no other way to read this as in this context, its just a small feature, but its a land grab to run workflows locked into their cloud not just models, we don't fall for regimes in one go but one tiny piece at a time, like the frog in the water.
Re: Schedule tasks on the web
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Me too. It doesn't have ability to alert only on true positive. I has to also alert on true negative. So dumb
This doesn't seem to hard to solve except for the ever so recurring llm output validation problem. If the true positive is rare you don't know if the earthquake alert system works until there's an earthquake.
... just force the data into a structured format, then use "hard code" on the structure.
"Generate the following JSON formatted object array representing the interruptions in my daily traffic. If no results, emit []. Send this at 8am every morning. {some schema}. Then run jsonreporter.py"
Then just let jsonreporter.py discriminate however it likes. Keep the LLMs doing what they are good at, and keep hard code doing what it's good at.
Re: Schedule tasks on the web
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? As a user of these tools, I love the convenience factor of having one tool rather than wrangling dozens. It's why in the past I've used an IDE (JetBrains), a language created by the provider of the IDE (Kotlin), web framework created by the same people (ktor), etc.
Except you can write Kotlin and ktor outside of Jetbrain's IDEs. Anthropic wants a world where they own your agent where it can't exist outside of the Claude desktop app or Claude Code. There could exist a world where your agent isn't confined by the whims of a corporation.
> Anthropic wants a world where they own your agent where it can't exist outside of the Claude desktop app or Claude Code.
Please. I'm sure you're referring to their locking down of subscription keys, which of course they are going to have restrictions on. It's a subsidized subscription model.
You've always been able to create a platform account and use API keys with usage-based billing, and that will never go away. Charging enough to make a profit on inference isn't exactly rent-seeking or whatever language you want to use to villainize a company trying to make enough revenue to survive.
Re: Schedule tasks on the web
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why? As a user of these tools, I love the convenience factor of having one tool rather than wrangling dozens. It's why in the past I've used an IDE (JetBrains), a language created by the provider of the IDE (Kotlin), web framework created by the same people (ktor), etc.
This is very different to a framework, language or IDE. More comparable to apple or amazon trying to create corporate anti competitive hellscapes of enslaved users that have no agency, no dignity and no real choice, reduced to rent extraction targets. Just with much more dire consequences and much more at stake. We still have the power to make ai providers have no moat and be interchangeable commodity. But we have to…
I paid a lot of attention to the opencode drama, and I still have a lot of respect for Dax, Adam, and the rest of that team. What I saw was a startup seeking to use API keys specific to Anthropic's subscription model, subsidized and intended for use solely by Anthropic's provided tooling. Anthropic also has an API usage-based model, for companies who want to create tooling around Anthropic models or integrate the models in their own products.
Re: Schedule tasks on the web
#230We need to fight model providers trying to own memory, workflows and tooling. Don't give them an inch more of your software than needed even if there is a slight inconvenience setting up.
I have tasks files in the code base that Claude executes on a schedule. I can easily move to other agents.