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AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying

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Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying

#11
"the question that organised the coverage was whether Claude, a chatbot made by Anthropic, had selected the school as a target."

This article is the first I have seen mention of Claude in relation to this specific incident. There's been plenty of talk about AI use in warfare in general but in the case of this school most of the coverage I have seen suggested outdated information and procedures not properly followed.

Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying

#12
WaPO writes that Claude selected targets:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/03/04/anthrop...

This unknown Guardian contributor writes a missive against "Luddites" while using the typical AI booster arguments that always turn around anti AI arguments.

Just like two five year olds: "You have a big nose." "No, you have a big nose."

We learn from this clown that anti AI people suffer from AI psychosis because they are reading WaPo and Reuters.

Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying

#13
post #4

The Guardian carrying water for the AI industry. The distinction between Maven and Claude is futile. We get that Maven is Palantir, but it integrates Claude: https://www.reuters.com/technology/palantir-faces-challenge-... Going into a generic rant about anti-AI people after missing sources and believing the Department of War is just extremely poor journalism from the newspaper that destroyed evidence after a command…

The article you're responding to is making specific operational claims about Claude's (basically non-) relevance. I'd be interested to hear if you're directionally correct, but forgive me if I need more details than "but it integrates Claude".

Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying

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post #12

WaPO writes that Claude selected targets: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2026/03/04/anthrop... This unknown Guardian contributor writes a missive against "Luddites" while using the typical AI booster arguments that always turn around anti AI arguments. Just like two five year olds: "You have a big nose." "No, you have a big nose." We learn from this clown that anti AI people suffer from AI psychosis becaus…

Both the Washington Post and the Guardian articles agree that the system used here was Maven.

The key sentence in that Washington Post article appears to be:

> The Pentagon began to integrate Anthropic’s Claude chatbot into Maven in late 2024, according to public announcements.

As far as I can tell this is the public announcement - a press release from November 2024: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20241107699415/en/Ant...

> Anthropic and Palantir Technologies Inc. (NYSE: PLTR) today announced a partnership with Amazon Web Services (AWS) to provide U.S. intelligence and defense agencies access to the Claude 3 and 3.5 family of models on AWS. This partnership allows for an integrated suite of technology to operationalize the use of Claude within Palantir’s AI Platform (AIP) while leveraging the security, agility, flexibility, and sustainability benefits provided by AWS.

Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying

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post #4

The Guardian carrying water for the AI industry. The distinction between Maven and Claude is futile. We get that Maven is Palantir, but it integrates Claude: https://www.reuters.com/technology/palantir-faces-challenge-... Going into a generic rant about anti-AI people after missing sources and believing the Department of War is just extremely poor journalism from the newspaper that destroyed evidence after a command…

This is not a correct take at all given the contents of the article.

Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying

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post #14

You know how that was done with a Tomahawk They've now burnt though almost ONE THOUSAND of those They cost $4 million each, so that's another $4 BILLION that has to be replaced too Imagine several more months of that or even through 2029

We'll run out long before 2029. The 850 fired so far is about a quarter of the entire supply.

https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-uses-h...

Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying

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post #14

You know how that was done with a Tomahawk They've now burnt though almost ONE THOUSAND of those They cost $4 million each, so that's another $4 BILLION that has to be replaced too Imagine several more months of that or even through 2029

So far, they are not funded to do this for that long. They have floated a $200B bill to congress, which made national news coverage. It would start a huge, prolonged fight over the war and actually force them to ask permission from congress to fight it (barring totally disregarding the constitution which is still a possibility).

Unfortunately I can very well imagine several more months and years of this. We are still fighting a forever war that started in 2001. This is all a generation of Americans will know, and that is sad.

Re: AI got the blame for the Iran school bombing. The truth is more worrying

#19
You can't have a serious discussion of this bombing without addressing the information warfare component. To this day we don't know what actually happened. Between the general public and the facts, there are many middlemen, all with their own distorting factor: the IRGC; the US government; western press outlets such as the Guardian; and the people quoted by the press.

IRGC is making claims that no other party can verify first-hand. Everything from the number of explosions, the extent of the physical damage, the number of wounded and dead, the number of civilians wounded and dead - these are all unverified claims and should be treated as such. Not only is the IRGC obviously biased and incentivized to maximize media pressure on the US and Israel: they are known for information warfare of exactly this nature. To take their statements at face value, and present them as established facts in the opening paragraph, as this article does, is journalistic malpractice.

Again, the basic facts on the ground are not known, yes all parties are projecting narratives with a certainty that we should all be suspicious of.

Without this stable foundation of knowing what actually happened, and why, the very premise of this article collapses on itself.

EDIT: the flurry of responses to this post illustrate the problem. It's difficult to even have a respectful, fact-driven discussion on this topic, because everyone is tempted (and encouraged) to rush to their political battle stations. Nobody wants to discuss information warfare, because they're too busy engaging in it. I think that's worrying and problematic. No matter which "side" you're on, it should be possible to distinguish what is known and what is not; and implementing basic information hygiene. Or do you think you are uniquely immune to disinformation?

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