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Rank the 50 best Apple products

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Re: Rank the 50 best Apple products

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right for the same reason that the original iPhone outranks the iPhone 3Gs.

These subjective evals are why community reviews are garbage. Personally I think the 3GS is a better product. I know a few folk who returned their original iPhone because the headphone jack didn’t allow their headphones to connect, and there were obvious limitations that weren’t addressed until the 3GS The iPhone was revolutionary no argument. But that doesn’t mean later revs were not better products for their time.

I think you're derive specificity from the data that simply isn't there. That's not a data problem, that's an interpretation problem.

The survey didn't ask about reliability, success, or functionality.

Re: Rank the 50 best Apple products

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Well for me it would be the M1 macbook air - apple silicon, no fans, extreme battery life and after like 2 decades of barely changing laptop experiences whew this thing was _fast_ too. Such a small powerful thing to have it was amazing. (still have mine, going strong).

Plus Mac OSX Mavericks. Guess the last really nice OS launch that simply did fixes and perf improvements (memory compression, ...) instead of slowing the machine down or adding friction. these were the days when people would look forward to a new mac os, not fearing another bullshit.

Re: Rank the 50 best Apple products

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post #27

The M1 chip is not an Apple product.

It was designed at Apple, and is sold and marketed and branded by Apple. What do you consider it? Apple infrastructure?

I mean you cannot go to a shop and buy an M1 chip.

The best you can do is buy a product with the chip in it. But that product may not be what you wanted.

You cannot unsolder the chip because it is useless as it comes with no documentation whatsoever.

Calling the chip a product is wrong.

At best it is an implementation detail.

Re: Rank the 50 best Apple products

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post #27

The M1 chip is not an Apple product.

In the same sense that potato chips are not a Lay’s product, because you can’t buy a potato chip, only a bag of them, and it’s not reasonable to assess the chip independently from the packaging in which it is sold, so the packaged chip is the product under discussion? Because that’s… extreme.

Re: Rank the 50 best Apple products

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Live rankings currently have Mac OS X first... h... how? Apple make so so much wonderful hardware! They always have. Their software on the other hand is near universally awful. I love my Macbook, but my gosh, I do not love whatever the latest flavour of macOS is that Apple have decided to throw on their update servers this year. It just so happens that I also enjoy Unix, so I spend a lot of my time in a terminal - bu…

I want to speak up for OS X. When it came out, and for years afterward, it hit an amazing sweet spot of looks cool, runs browsers well, runs MS well, runs Adobe well, full Unix shell, added great new features every year. There is a reason it became extremely popular with web devs, as the web was taking over the economy.

A closed local firewall blocking all inbound by default. Spotlight indexing. Time Machine backups. Flexible screenshot tools. Print anything to PDF. Lots of useful trackpad gestures. And after Intel, we got Rosetta, Boot Camp, easy Windows virtualization like Parallels, etc. That’s all off the top of my head, but for sure OS X had Microsoft on their back foot for years. Gates used to yell at his team about it.

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