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I don't think it's so odd, very few products above ~$50k have final prices listed for anyone to buy 1-click.
Workstations above 50k are not that uncommon. Older xeon based workstations easily reach that number.
"Purchasing limit reached. To complete your order and provide you with the best customer experience, please call 1-877-888-8235"
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Hey didn't they drop the 512 Gb model? https://appleinsider.com/articles/26/03/06/forget-512gb-ram-... You may want to hold on to your M3 Ultra! There's no guarantee there will be a M5 Ultra with 512 Gb ram.
I don’t actually use the memory anywhere near as much as I thought I would. 256GB would be fine for me :)
But it feels really good to have more ram than you can think of a use for.
I have a faint memory of an interview ages ago with Knuth I think where he mentioned as an aside he was using a workstation with 3.2 Gb of storage and 4 Gb of ram :)
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>If it's your work machine and you've got a $100/hr billable rate it's paid for in a little over a month. Are you working 996 weeks or something? At standard 40h work-week the math works out to 8.75 weeks to "pay for itself".
What if that machine lets you do your job 4x faster?
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> it's about 3x the minimum salary in my country! Enthusiast compute hardware doesn't cater to the people on the minimum salary in any country, let alone developing nations. When Ferrari makes a car they don't ask themselves if people on minimum salary will be able to afford them. In in the bottom two poorest EU member states and Apple and Microsoft Xbox don't even bother to have a direct to customer store presence h…
Right, I think maybe we're then talking about "upper class enthusiasts" or something in reality then? I understood that to juts be about the person, not what economic class they were in, maybe I misunderstood.
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It's hilarious that not a single one of these has pricing listed anywhere public. I don't think they expect anyone to actually buy these. Most companies looking to buy these for developers would ideally have multiple people share one machine and that sort of an arrangement works much more naturally with a managed cloud machine instead of the tower format presented here. Confirming my hypothesis, this category of devi…
'Important' people in organizations get them. They either ask for them, or the team that manages the shared GPU resources gets tired of their shit and they just give them one.
Since the user here is not paying for it directly, the manufacturer does not have any incentive to list prices anywhere.
I bet there’s gonna be a banger of a Mac Studio announced in June. Apple really stumbled into making the perfect hardware for home inference machines. Does any hardware company come close to Apple in terms of unified memory and single machines for high throughput inference workloads? Or even any DIY build? When it comes to the previous “pro workloads,” like video rendering or software compilation, you’ve always been…
> But inference is unique because its performance scales with high memory throughput, and you can’t assemble that by wiring together off the shelf parts in a consumer form factor. Nvidia outperforms Mac significantly on diffusion inference and many other forms. It’s not as simple as the current Mac chips are entirely better for this.
I never liked apple hardware, but they are now untouchable since their shift to own sillicon for home hardware.
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Where are you gonna find Apple hardware with 128GB of memory at enthusiast-compatible price? The cheapest Apple desktop with 128GB of memory shows up as costing $3499 for me, which isn't very "enthusiast-compatible", it's about 3x the minimum salary in my country!
Apple is not catering to minimum salaries in poor countries. Does this really need to be explained? $3499 is definitely enthusiast compatible. That's beefy gaming PC tier, which is possibly the canonical example of an enthusiast market. This isn't tens of thousands of dollars for top tier Nvidia chips we're talking about.
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> it's about 3x the minimum salary in my country! Enthusiast compute hardware doesn't cater to the people on the minimum salary in any country, let alone developing nations. When Ferrari makes a car they don't ask themselves if people on minimum salary will be able to afford them. In in the bottom two poorest EU member states and Apple and Microsoft Xbox don't even bother to have a direct to customer store presence h…
Right, I think maybe we're then talking about "upper class enthusiasts" or something in reality then? I understood that to juts be about the person, not what economic class they were in, maybe I misunderstood.
Enthusiast in this contest more or less means you are excited enough about something to get a level above what normal people should get and just below professional pricing. An enthusiast camera body can be 2000 euros.
I would say an enthusiast computer is 2-4k.
It really depends what you meant with minimum salary (yearly?) because paying 3 months of salary for a computer like that isn't far fetched. You're not using this to generate recipes for cookies. An enthusiast level car is expensive as well.
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Oculink is generally faster than TB5 despite them both using PCIe 4.0, because Oculink provides direct PCIe access whereas Thunderbolt has to route all PCIe traffic through its controller. The benchmarks show that the overhead introduced by the TB5 controller slows down GPU performance.
Apple Silicon has an integrated thunderbolt controller so that should have less latency than PCs that use a discrete thunderbolt controller.
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it's not just about pcie, it's socketed memory and disks. I guess disks are just pcie technically - but memory sockets are great. hell, in the pro chassis I am surprised they didn't opt for a socketed cpu that could be upgraded.
The latest M2-based Mac Pro did not take socketed memory AIUI.