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Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

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Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

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Lost in the cacophony is the fact that Anthropic fumbled a strong lifeline while hemorrhaging cash without a business model. It’s fun to look down at OpenAI but they may not get another chance like this again.

whatever you say boss

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

#93
Had this conversation with a friend, but I think as an America you can be very optimistic about the institutional strength of democracy in the country.

People are very pessimistic recently, but if anything, we are seeing that our system works well. A person got into power that a majority voted for, but when he oversteps, the courts and other institutions (even judges and fed reserve chairs he picked!) seem to hold him to the rules.

I get the pessimism, but for the most part, I kinda think the system is working.

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

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The issue of course is that the Judge can't change the knowledge that the head of the executive doesn't want people down the chain using this product, so they won't. Anthropic is a dead letter in government circles until the next Presidential election.

Eh, it’s not going to be transitively problematic for Anthropic the way the supply chain risk designation would’ve been.

Amazon isn’t going to have to divest from Anthropic because of this. Yes, they probably won’t be able to get a contract with Raytheon, but that wasn’t the main risk of being tagged with the supply chain risk designation.

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you turn on the thing that shows 'dead' comments, there is a larger than normal number here.

Indeed, and the dead comments (from new users!) overwhelmingly favor the government position. But, this is a non-story, because those comments were correctly killed precisely so they wouldn't clog up this thread.

Eh. The actors that use these features use a shotgun approach. The result is you see a bunch of dead comments and assume the system is working as intended, while a couple of the less inconspicuous comments persist. This happens frequently on specific topics.

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

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The issue of course is that the Judge can't change the knowledge that the head of the executive doesn't want people down the chain using this product, so they won't. Anthropic is a dead letter in government circles until the next Presidential election.

The type of contract they had was optional anyway. They could have just not done business with Anthropic in the first place. Really I think this has only promoted their platform as being sane and moral.

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this question supposed to have anything to do with the situation at hand, where what they did was refuse to perform certain categories of service?

>was refuse to perform certain categories of service? Anthropic wanted to have the power over what the government could or couldn't do. If there was any false positive on something that was supposed to be allowed the government would have to work with Anthropic and get permission from them to do something they are allowed to do. This to me is the risk that Anthropic was giving to the government. If Anthropic expresse…

Anthropic wanted power over what the government would do with the servers Anthropic runs. That's not weird and that's not being a risk. It's normal business negotiation.

Re: Judge blocks Pentagon effort to 'punish' Anthropic with supply chain risk label

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The issue of course is that the Judge can't change the knowledge that the head of the executive doesn't want people down the chain using this product, so they won't. Anthropic is a dead letter in government circles until the next Presidential election.

That may be, but the government doesn't need to declare Anthropic as a "supply chain risk" in order to just not do business with it. A simple clause in all RFPs is all that is needed.

The problem with this declaration by the government is that now any company doing any business with the US government would be effectively forbidden from using Anthropic ANYWHERE within their company, which is a huge deal, because the government does want to vet any vendors' software development practices.

But as long as the Judge in this case pushes back against such an action by the government, that leaves companies free to use Anthropic for their own internal uses. And most companies WILL continue to use them if it makes economic sense.

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