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Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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The 2013 trash can was the end of the Mac Pro. It was never the same after that. The 2012 and earlier Mac Pros were awesome. I had a 2010 model. Here's what I loved: • Multiple hard drive bays for easy swapping of disks, with a side panel that the user could open and close • Expandable RAM • Lots of ports, including audio • The tower took up no desktop space • It was relatively affordable, starting at $2500. Many sof…

That's when they stopped designing computers for the pro market and started selling mid-century Danish furniture that can also edit videos.

I knew it was all over when third party companies had to develop the necessarily-awkward rack mount kits for those contraptions. If Apple actually cared about or understood their pro customers, they would have built a first party solution for their needs. Like sell an actual rack-mount computer again—the horror!

Instead, an editing suite got what looked like my bathroom wastebasket.

Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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> Apple’s desktop Macs actually all have modular SSD storage "Modular" does not mean that it's serviceable, repairable or upgradable. Apple's refusal to adopt basic M.2 spec is a pretty glaring example of that.

> Apple's refusal to adopt basic M.2 spec I get the ideological angle, but in practical terms that's not a barrier: https://www.aliexpress.us/w/wholesale-apple-ssd-adapter.html...

Those are all for Intel Macs, and not even the recent Intel Macs. You can't use a passive adapter to put a NVMe SSD into a current Mac like you could a decade ago, because back then the only thing non-standard about the SSD was the connector. Now most of the SSD controller itself has moved to the SoC and trying to put an off the shelf SSD into the current slot makes no more sense than trying to put an SSD into a DIMM slot.

Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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The 2013 trash can was the end of the Mac Pro. It was never the same after that. The 2012 and earlier Mac Pros were awesome. I had a 2010 model. Here's what I loved: • Multiple hard drive bays for easy swapping of disks, with a side panel that the user could open and close • Expandable RAM • Lots of ports, including audio • The tower took up no desktop space • It was relatively affordable, starting at $2500. Many sof…

The studio is also like 5x as fast as those machines.

What's your point? Of course processors have gotten a lot faster between 2012 and 2025.

I was talking about the form factor of the machine.

Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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I think that's an expected thing. G5 was the thing. And companies were buying G5 and other macs like that all the time, because you were able to actually extend it with video cards and some special equipment. But now we have M chips. You don't need video for M chips. You kinda do, but truthfully, it's cheaper to buy a beefier Mac than to install a video card. Pro was a great thing for designers and video editors, tho…

> gone are the days of PCIe. My GPU, NVMe drives and motherboard might disagree.

- GPU is integrated into the SoC - Surprisingly, it is possible to plug a drive into a TB/USB port

…so what do you actually need PCIe for?

Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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That handily edits multiple 4K streams

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> simp: be excessively attentive or submissive to a person in whom one is romantically or sexually interested.

This word does not appear to be in any way relevant. You do not have to buy a MacBook Neo, but approximately everyone else in the low-end laptop market will.

If you think it is a bad product, go buy some Acer stock.

Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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The Ultra variants of the M series chips had previously consisted of two of the Max chips bonded together.

The M5 generation Pro and Max chips have moved to a chiplet based architecture, with all the CPU cores on one chiplet, and all the GPU cores on another.

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_M5

So what will the M5 Ultra look like?

If you integrate two CPU chiplets and two GPU chiplets, you're looking at 36 CPU cores, 80 GPU cores, and 1228 GB/s of memory bandwidth.

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