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Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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Post by bigyabai »

internet2000 wrote: post #20
bigyabai wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple’s desktop Macs actually all have modular SSD storage "Modular" does not mean that it's serviceable, repairable or upgradable. Apple's refusal to adopt basic M.2 spec is a pretty glaring example of that.

> Apple's refusal to adopt basic M.2 spec I get the ideological angle, but in practical terms that's not a barrier: https://www.aliexpress.us/w/wholesale-apple-ssd-adapter.html...

This is the USB-C dongle argument all over again, but with a proprietary connector that a total of one (1) company uses.

Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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Post by longislandguido »

Apple betrayed their pro customers years ago—right around the time they went to version X of the Pro apps—it's all been a slow death by a thousand paper cuts since then.

The money's all in selling phones to teen girls now, and taking their mafia cut of app store sales.

Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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Post by IFC_LLC »

I think that's an expected thing.

G5 was the thing. And companies were buying G5 and other macs like that all the time, because you were able to actually extend it with video cards and some special equipment.

But now we have M chips. You don't need video for M chips. You kinda do, but truthfully, it's cheaper to buy a beefier Mac than to install a video card.

Pro was a great thing for designers and video editors, those freaks who need to color-calibrate monitors. And right now even mini works just fine for that.

And as for extensions - gone are the days of PCIe. Audio cards and other specialized equipment works and lives just fine on USB-C and Thunderbolt.

I remember how many months I've spent trying to make Creative Labs Sound Blaster to work on my 486 computer. At that time you had to have a card to extend your system. Right now I'm using Scarlett 2i2 from Focusrite. It works over USB-C with my iPhone, iPad and Mac. DJIs mics work just as good.

Damn, you can buy Oscilloscope that works over USB-C or network.

It's not the Mac's or Apple's fault. We are actually live in the age where systems are quite independent and do not require direct installations.

Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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Post by waz0wski »

w-m wrote: post #6

While the trash can generation was somewhat present and around, I don't think I ever saw a cheese grater in the flesh. Did it have any users? Were there any actual useful expansion cards? Did anybody continue buying this at all, after it didn't get the M3 Ultra bump, that the Mac Studio got last year?

I just replaced a 2009 MacPro

It had many hardware upgrades over the years - upgraded CPUs, 128GB RAM, 4TB NVME storage, a modern AMD GPU, USB3/c, thunderbolt, etc

The only reason it got replaced is because it became too much of a PITA to keep modern OSX running on it (via OCLP)

Replaced with an M4 Max Mac Studio, which is a nice and faster machine but with no ability to upgrade anything and much worse hardware resale value on M-series I'll have to replace it in 2-3 years

Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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Post by kelnos »

dangus wrote: post #14

> Serviceable, repairable, upgradable Macs are officially a thing of the past. Well, not exactly. Apple’s desktop Macs actually all have modular SSD storage, and third parties sell upgrade kits. And it’s not like Thunderbolt is a slouch as far as expandability. I can see why the Mac Pro is gone. Yeah, it has PCIe slots…that I don’t really think anyone is using. It’s not like you can drop an RTX 5090 in there. The lat…

It's sad that "you can replace the SSD" is in some people's eyes "serviceable, repairable, and upgradeable".

We should demand better of our computer-manufacturing overlords.

> It’s not like you can drop an RTX 5090 in there.

Why not? Oh, right, because Apple won't let you. Sad.

Re: Apple discontinues the Mac Pro

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Post by Lucasoato »

IFC_LLC wrote: post #26

I think that's an expected thing. G5 was the thing. And companies were buying G5 and other macs like that all the time, because you were able to actually extend it with video cards and some special equipment. But now we have M chips. You don't need video for M chips. You kinda do, but truthfully, it's cheaper to buy a beefier Mac than to install a video card. Pro was a great thing for designers and video editors, tho…

Scarlett 2i2 has been amazing for me, I’d say unbeatable in terms of quality/price ratio.
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