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Re: Hypothesis, Antithesis, synthesis

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beedeebeedee wrote: post #97
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #95

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The point is not “could someone get benefit from this” it’s that there are better heuristics to use and using old ones means you’re operating on old software By that standard literally anything is valuable even as just an example of what not to do so it’s a meaningless measurement

> there are better heuristics to use and using old ones means you’re operating on old software You’re making a lot of pronouncements that are arbitrary to you

It’s a rare condition called having an educated and informed opinion

Re: Hypothesis, Antithesis, synthesis

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Post by beedeebeedee »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #101
beedeebeedee wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> there are better heuristics to use and using old ones means you’re operating on old software You’re making a lot of pronouncements that are arbitrary to you

It’s a rare condition called having an educated and informed opinion

I don’t want to punch down, but that comes across a lot like trump saying he has the biggest words.

You may not have the time or inclination, but there is a lot to learn from studying Hegel and the history of philosophy. No ‘measurement’ is required.

Re: Hypothesis, Antithesis, synthesis

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

beedeebeedee wrote: post #102
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a rare condition called having an educated and informed opinion

I don’t want to punch down, but that comes across a lot like trump saying he has the biggest words. You may not have the time or inclination, but there is a lot to learn from studying Hegel and the history of philosophy. No ‘measurement’ is required.

That was never a question.

There are structural limits to the Hegelian Dialectic being used as a universal epistemology

Marxism and other non-numerically based epistemology traditions refuse to accept this

The majority of people aren’t even as deep as hegel and yet even the hegelians still think they have a universal epistemology

when they have a keplerian version at best that hasn’t even heard of subatomic particles

Re: Hypothesis, Antithesis, synthesis

#104

Post by beedeebeedee »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #103
beedeebeedee wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t want to punch down, but that comes across a lot like trump saying he has the biggest words. You may not have the time or inclination, but there is a lot to learn from studying Hegel and the history of philosophy. No ‘measurement’ is required.

That was never a question. There are structural limits to the Hegelian Dialectic being used as a universal epistemology Marxism and other non-numerically based epistemology traditions refuse to accept this The majority of people aren’t even as deep as hegel and yet even the hegelians still think they have a universal epistemology when they have a keplerian version at best that hasn’t even heard of subatomic particles

> That was never a question

You originally made the statement that "Hegel is irrelevant in the age of measurement", to which I objected. Unless you're going to back pedal further, you did find studying Hegel questionable.

I'm not going to go on the attack, but your pronouncements and self-certainty do not sound well considered.

Re: Hypothesis, Antithesis, synthesis

#105

Post by AndrewKemendo »

beedeebeedee wrote: post #104
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was never a question. There are structural limits to the Hegelian Dialectic being used as a universal epistemology Marxism and other non-numerically based epistemology traditions refuse to accept this The majority of people aren’t even as deep as hegel and yet even the hegelians still think they have a universal epistemology when they have a keplerian version at best that hasn’t even heard of subatomic particles

> That was never a question You originally made the statement that "Hegel is irrelevant in the age of measurement", to which I objected. Unless you're going to back pedal further, you did find studying Hegel questionable. I'm not going to go on the attack, but your pronouncements and self-certainty do not sound well considered.

They can both be true

For an ignorant uneducated person with absolutely no education thinking dialectically is an improvement

If you are a doctor or prime minister in 2026 you’re neglegent if your epistemological roots are based on a hegelian dialectic

But go off queen

Re: Hypothesis, Antithesis, synthesis

#106

Post by sunshowers »

DRMacIver wrote: post #65
sunshowers wrote: post #58

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Thank you! I have some particularly annoying proptest-based tests that I'll try porting over to Hegel soon. (Thanks for writing the Claude skill to do this.)

Please let us know how it goes! As Liam says, the derive generator is not very well dogfooded at present. The claude skill is a bit better, but we've only been through a few iterations of using it and getting Claude to improve it, and porting from proptest is one of the less well tested areas (because we don't use proptest much ourselves). I expect all of this works, but I'd like to know ways that it works less well…

Yep! Here's an experience report: https://github.com/hegeldev/hegel-rust/issues/148

Re: Hypothesis, Antithesis, synthesis

#107

Post by beedeebeedee »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #105
beedeebeedee wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That was never a question You originally made the statement that "Hegel is irrelevant in the age of measurement", to which I objected. Unless you're going to back pedal further, you did find studying Hegel questionable. I'm not going to go on the attack, but your pronouncements and self-certainty do not sound well considered.

They can both be true For an ignorant uneducated person with absolutely no education thinking dialectically is an improvement If you are a doctor or prime minister in 2026 you’re neglegent if your epistemological roots are based on a hegelian dialectic But go off queen

Top-notch philosophical argumentation. All of your rare, educated and informed opinions really shine.
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