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Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by mech422 »

ronsor wrote: post #121
embedding-shape wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I publish OSS projects on GitHub because that's where the community is And so we go, forever in circles, until enough of us move to other platforms regardless of where the existing community is. Just like how GitHub found its community in the early days, when most people (afaik) was using SourceForge, if anything. "The community" will always remain on GitHub, if everyone just upload code to where "the community" al…

> "The community" will always remain on GitHub, if everyone just upload code to where "the community" already is. If enough of us stop using GitHub by default, and instead use something else, eventually "the community" will be there too, but it is somewhat of a chicken-and-egg problem, I admit. SourceForge was abandoned due to UX issues and the adware debacle; at the same time, GitHub started making changes which mad…

"SourceForge was abandoned due to UX issues and the adware debacle"

I'd say SourceForge was abandoned due to VA Linux going under. I remember the pain/panic as large numbers of OSS projects were suddenly scrambling to find alternatives to SF. I actually started a subscription to GitHub just to try and help ensure they had the money to stay in business, and we didn't have to go thru that again.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by era-epoch »

kevinfiol wrote: post #146
frevib wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP is about Github. Have you seen the Github uptime monitor? It’s at 90% [1] for the last 90 days. I use both Codeberg and Github a lot and Github has, by far, more problems than Codeberg. Sometimes I notice slowdowns on Codeberg, but that’s it. [1] https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/

To be fair, Github has several magnitudes higher of users running on it than Codeberg. I'm also a Codeberg user, but I don't think anyone has seen a Forgejo/Gitea instance working at the scale of Github yet.

I think the idea is that a Forgejo/Gitea instance should never have to work at anywhere near the scale of GitHub. Codeberg provides its Forgejo host as a convenience/community thing but it's not being built to be a central service.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by SpaceNoodled »

mejutoco wrote: post #198
NewJazz wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately I don't think there's really an answer to that conundrum that doesn't involve just spinning up your own git server and accepting all the operational overhead that comes with it. Hmm all that operational overhead... Of an ssh server? If you literally just want a place to push some code, then that really isn't that hard.

In case anybody is interested, having a bare git repo on a server is as easy as: # locally ssh git@example.com # server mkdir repo.git cd repo.git git --bare init # locally git remote add origin ssh://git@example.com/home/git/repo.git git push origin master P.S. I know it does not have the same features as github

It has all the same working features as github

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by AlienRobot »

noirscape wrote: post #14

I don't dislike Codeberg inherently, but it's not a "true" GitHub replacement. It can handle a good chunk of GitHub repositories (namely those for well established FOSS projects looking to have everything a proper capital P project has), but if you're just looking for a generic place to put your code projects that aren't necessarily intended for public release and support (ie. random automation scripts, scraps of con…

To me that sounds like Github does too many things, not that Codeberg does too few.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by literallyroy »

erdaniels wrote: post #130

I just migrated our entire company off of github to gitlab self-hosted. So far so good. It's entirely behind tailscale so we don't have any SSO tax from gitlab and all of our CI runners are on EKS + an on-prem cluster with GPUs. If anyone needs help or motivation accomplishing the same, just reach out!

Does self-hosted support SCIM or something else easy to connect for automatic user provisioning? Or do yal do account creations manually?

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by matrss »

willx86 wrote: post #145
matrss wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, basically iocaine ( https://iocaine.madhouse-project.org/ ). It has indeed been very useful to get the AI scraper load on a server I maintain down to a reasonable level, even with its not so strict default configuration.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/ai-labyrinth/ A bit like this? ( iocaine is newer)

First time seeing that, but yes, seems similar in concept. Iocaine can be self-hosted and put in as a "middleware" in your reverse proxy with a few lines of config, cloudflare's seems tied to their services. Cloudflares also generates garbage with generative models, while iocaine uses much simpler (and surely more "crude") methods of generating its garbage. Using LLMs to feed junk to LLMs just makes me cry, so much wasted compute.

Is iocaine actually newer though? Its first commit dates to 2025-01, while the blog post is from 2025-03. I couldn't find info on when Cloudflare started theirs. There's also Nepenthes, which had its first release in 2025-01 too.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by sc68cal »

ronsor wrote: post #112

The truth is that I publish OSS projects on GitHub because that's where the community is, and the issues/pull requests/discussions are a bonus. If I just want to host my code, I can self host or use an SSH/SFTP server as a git remote, and that's usually what I do.

I have been struggling with this, myself. I used to push everything to GitHub, but a couple months ago I switched over to using my small low-power home server as a Git host. I used to really enjoy the feeling of pushing commits up to GitHub, and that little dopamine rush hasn't really transferred to my home machine yet.

It's a shame. The people who control the money successfully committed enshittification against open source.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by pyth0 »

AlienRobot wrote: post #204
noirscape wrote: post #14

I don't dislike Codeberg inherently, but it's not a "true" GitHub replacement. It can handle a good chunk of GitHub repositories (namely those for well established FOSS projects looking to have everything a proper capital P project has), but if you're just looking for a generic place to put your code projects that aren't necessarily intended for public release and support (ie. random automation scripts, scraps of con…

To me that sounds like Github does too many things, not that Codeberg does too few.

To me, and devs at large (given their market share), that sounds like convenience.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by stephenr »

mejutoco wrote: post #198
NewJazz wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately I don't think there's really an answer to that conundrum that doesn't involve just spinning up your own git server and accepting all the operational overhead that comes with it. Hmm all that operational overhead... Of an ssh server? If you literally just want a place to push some code, then that really isn't that hard.

In case anybody is interested, having a bare git repo on a server is as easy as: # locally ssh git@example.com # server mkdir repo.git cd repo.git git --bare init # locally git remote add origin ssh://git@example.com/home/git/repo.git git push origin master P.S. I know it does not have the same features as github

If it's your ssh server and it's single user you don't need to use the "git@" part at all.

Just store the repo and access it with your account.

The whole git@ thing is because most "forge" software is built around a single dedicated user doing everything, rather than taking advantage of the OS users, permissions and acl system.

For a single user it's pointless. For anyone who knows how to setup filesystem permissions it's not necessary.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by stephenr »

tbayramov wrote: post #200
noirscape wrote: post #14

I don't dislike Codeberg inherently, but it's not a "true" GitHub replacement. It can handle a good chunk of GitHub repositories (namely those for well established FOSS projects looking to have everything a proper capital P project has), but if you're just looking for a generic place to put your code projects that aren't necessarily intended for public release and support (ie. random automation scripts, scraps of con…

(Shameless plug) Hey, I’m building Monohub - as a GitHub alternative, and having private repositories is perhaps a key feature - it started as a place for me to host my own random stuff. Monohub [dot] dev is the URL. It’s quite early in development, so it’s quite rough around the edges. It has PR support though. Hosted in EU, incorporated in EU. Would be happy if you tried it out — maybe it’s something for you. Edit:…

Are you using an existing forge package (like eg Forgejo which codeberg is built on) or something custom?
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