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Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by kitsune1 »

dwedge wrote: post #124
freedomben wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had the same experience. Philosophically I think it's terrible that Cloudflare has become a middleman in a huge and important swath of the internet. As a user, it largely makes my life much worse. It limits my browser, my ability to protect myself via VPNs, etc, and I am just browsing normally, not attacking anything. Pragmatically though, as a webmaster/admin/whatever you want to call it nowadays, Cloudflare is…

While I sympathise, I disagree with your stance. Cloudflare handle a large % of the Internet now because of people putting sites that, as you admitted, don't need to be behind it there.

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Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by mtlynch »

>The by far nastiest part is CI. GitHub has done an excellent job luring people in with free macOS runners and infinite capacity for public repos.

This was my biggest blocker as well, as there weren't any managed CIs that supported Codeberg until recently.

NixCI[0] recently added support for Codeberg, and I've had a great experience with it. The catch is that you have to write your CI in Nix, though with LLMs, this is actually pretty easy. Most of my CI jobs are just bash scripts with some Nix wiring on top.[1] It also means you can reproduce all your CI jobs locally without changing any code.

[0] https://nix-ci.com

[1] https://codeberg.org/mtlynch/little-moments/src/commit/d9856... - for example

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by j16sdiz »

rglullis wrote: post #84
freedomben wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had the same experience. Philosophically I think it's terrible that Cloudflare has become a middleman in a huge and important swath of the internet. As a user, it largely makes my life much worse. It limits my browser, my ability to protect myself via VPNs, etc, and I am just browsing normally, not attacking anything. Pragmatically though, as a webmaster/admin/whatever you want to call it nowadays, Cloudflare is…

Either I am very lucky or what I am doing has zero value to bots, because I've been running servers online for at least 15 years, and never had any issue that couldn't be solved with basic security hygiene. I use cloudflare as my DNS for some servers, but I always disable any of their paid features. To me they could go out of business tomorrow and my servers would be chugging along just fine.

Sometime it is not security , it could be just bandwidth or CPU.

I have website small enough not to attract too many bot, but sometime, something very innocent can bring my website down.

For example, I put a php ical viewer.. and some crawler start loading the calendar page, taking up all the cpu cycle.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by willx86 »

matrss wrote: post #132
dspillett wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> and use robots.txt as a guide of what to crawl rather than what not to crawl Mental note, make sure my robots.txt files contain a few references to slowly returning pages full of almost nonsense that link back to each other endlessly… Not complete nonsense, that would be reasonably easy to detect and ignore. Perhaps repeats of your other content with every 5th word swapped with a random one from elsewhere in the co…

So, basically iocaine ( https://iocaine.madhouse-project.org/ ). It has indeed been very useful to get the AI scraper load on a server I maintain down to a reasonable level, even with its not so strict default configuration.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/ai-labyrinth/

A bit like this? ( iocaine is newer)

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by kevinfiol »

frevib wrote: post #106
INTPenis wrote: post #5

Lazy has nothing to do with it, codeberg simply doesn't work. Most of my friends who use codeberg are staunch cloudflare-opponents, but cloudflare is what keeps Gitlab alive. Fact of life is that they're being attacked non-stop, and need some sort of DDoS filter. Codeberg has that anubis thing now I guess? But they still have downtime, and the worst thing ever for me as a developer is having the urge to code and not…

OP is about Github. Have you seen the Github uptime monitor? It’s at 90% [1] for the last 90 days. I use both Codeberg and Github a lot and Github has, by far, more problems than Codeberg. Sometimes I notice slowdowns on Codeberg, but that’s it. [1] https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/

To be fair, Github has several magnitudes higher of users running on it than Codeberg. I'm also a Codeberg user, but I don't think anyone has seen a Forgejo/Gitea instance working at the scale of Github yet.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by mikepurvis »

swiftcoder wrote: post #118
ponkpanda wrote: post #34

Repo hosting is the kind of thing that ought to be distributed/federated. The underlying protocol (git) already has the cryptographic primitives that decouples trust in the commit tree (GPG or SSH signing) with trust in the storage service (i.e. github/codeberg/whatever). All you need to house centrally is some SSH and/or gpg key server and some means of managing namespaces which would benefit from federation as well…

> Repo hosting is the kind of thing that ought to be distributed/federated. Hence Tangled and ForgeFed (which I believe is integrating in Forejo)

I hadn't heard of either of these, but I'm interested.

I think at this point the bigger barrier to me with leaving GitHub (professionally, at least) is all the non-GitHub stuff that integrates nicely with it and badly or not at all with other solutions. And like, I don't blame tool providers for making a rational economic choice in that regard, but if leaving GitHub means leaving seamless Sentry, Depot, Linear, editor plugins, AI integrations, etc that makes it a tougher pill to swallow.

I worked for years at a shop that had in-house GitLab and we felt this pain first hand all the time. GitLab tries to be a one-stop shop and own the whole project management and testing/deployment workflow by building everything in house, but there were always gaps and it was hard not to be jealous of places that just did everything on GitHub and could use whatever best in class saas stuff they wanted.

Gitlab has been tracking a federation feature since at least 2018 [1], and I expect bitbucket, sourcehut, gitea, and others would move quickly on something like this as well, but there needs to be a protocol defined and some kind of plan for handling spam/abuse.

[1]: https://gitlab.com/groups/gitlab-org/-/work_items/16514

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by z3t4 »

INTPenis wrote: post #5

Lazy has nothing to do with it, codeberg simply doesn't work. Most of my friends who use codeberg are staunch cloudflare-opponents, but cloudflare is what keeps Gitlab alive. Fact of life is that they're being attacked non-stop, and need some sort of DDoS filter. Codeberg has that anubis thing now I guess? But they still have downtime, and the worst thing ever for me as a developer is having the urge to code and not…

I find irony in that Git was made to get rid of central repos, and then we re-introduce them.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by cyberrock »

embedding-shape wrote: post #16
INTPenis wrote: post #5

Lazy has nothing to do with it, codeberg simply doesn't work. Most of my friends who use codeberg are staunch cloudflare-opponents, but cloudflare is what keeps Gitlab alive. Fact of life is that they're being attacked non-stop, and need some sort of DDoS filter. Codeberg has that anubis thing now I guess? But they still have downtime, and the worst thing ever for me as a developer is having the urge to code and not…

Maybe I'm too old school, but both GitHub and Codeberg for me are asyncronous "I want to send/share the code somehow", not "my active workspace I require to do work". But reading > the worst thing ever for me as a developer is having the urge to code and not being able to access my remote. Makes it seem like GitHub/Codeberg has to be online for you to be able to code, is that really the case? If so, how does that hap…

For some projects, the issue tracker is a pretty integral part of the documentation. Sure, you can host your own issue tracker somewhere, but that's still shifting a center point somewhere, in a theoretically decentralized system. I've frequently wished the issue tracker was part of the repository. Also -- love them or hate them -- LLMs would probably love that too.

Re: Moving from GitHub to Codeberg, for lazy people

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Post by dml2135 »

cdrnsf wrote: post #55

I've been using a self-hosted forgejo (which Codeberg uses and maintains) instance for all of my non-work projects and it's been great. I don't miss GitHub at all. I also keep it accessible only from Tailscale so that AI crawlers and such can speedily make their way into the sun.

Same, I've been enjoying it a ton. Recently, with the help of Claude, I've used it to set up an entire CI/CD pipeline for my home server. The flow is roughly:

Build Nix config into a VM image => Deploy VM to Proxmox via its API => Spin up Docker stack via Komodo

I've also trying to use it to sync my Obsidian vault via git to my phone, altho that flaked out on me recently (if anyone knows a reliable way to use git via the shell on iOS, please let me know).

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