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Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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zelphirkalt wrote: post #527
petcat wrote: post #403

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Well hopefully now that there's precedent, it will open them up to recurring repeat-offender lawsuits and legal action. The goal is to get them to stop doing predatory things now.

That's good, but it can be read as: "Everyone can be a first time offender and get away with a slap on the wrist." -- where "everyone" is a tech company. Next they will find some other nefarious thing they don't need to check for properly, since that would be a new offense and again only get a wrist slap. There is no signal in this fine, other than "Hey it's OK, if you are big enough, you will get away with it. At le…

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Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by al_borland »

expedition32 wrote: post #534
gingersnap wrote: post #520

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I think this is the way. Not control, but just make it simpler for parents to handle their childrens devices. You dont have to make everyone share their age, you just make it so that parents can in a simpler way choose what the children should be able to access. Make it easy to do right, dont add more control. Its kind of the old anti-piracy copyprotections. The pirates always cracked it, and in the end, the ones who…

Children are not just the responsibility of parents it is the job of society-through government- to protect and support them. So no we can't just tell parents to deal with it.

The laws being made to “protect” children seem to always have the side effect of removing security and privacy protections from adults.

There has to be a middle ground.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by voxic11 »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #13

> The New Mexico attorney general’s office created multiple fake Facebook and Instagram profiles posing as children as part of its investigation into Meta. Those test accounts encountered sexually suggestive content and requests to share pornographic content, the suit alleges. > The fake child accounts were allegedly contacted and solicited for sex by the three New Mexico adult men who were arrested in May of 2024. T…

They have been under a lot of pressure for years to disable e2e messaging because it prevents them from monitoring messages for child abuse. This was a central point of the trial. While they haven't given a reason for the change I think its reasonable to infer it is in response to this pressure.

However there is another possible explanation

> Tom Sulston, head of policy at Digital Rights Watch, said rather than acceding to law enforcement demands, the move was more likely due to Meta deciding against moving messaging on WhatsApp, Facebook and Instagram to a single platform.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by WarmWash »

skybrian wrote: post #33
fourside wrote: post #30

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I understand the concern but then to make this available for adults you now have to provide proof of age to companies, which opens up another can of privacy worms.

Theoretically we don't actually need proof of age. Websites need to know when the user is attempting to create an account or log in from a child-locked device. Parents need to make sure their kids only have child-locked devices. Vendors need to make sure they don't sell unlocked devices to kids.

The actual problem is that there are parents, I even remember them growing up, who do not care what their kid is exposed to and won't flinch at anything. I'm sure most here had a "Jeff's mom" who didn't care if you guys were playing mortal combat while blasting Wu Tang at 9 years old.

So even if 95% of kids have responsible parents locking down access, there will still be this 5% that will continue to drip horror stories that motivate knee-jerk regulation.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by itsdesmond »

davidguetta wrote: post #539
expedition32 wrote: post #534

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Children are not just the responsibility of parents it is the job of society-through government- to protect and support them. So no we can't just tell parents to deal with it.

This is not a widely shared opinion.

Since when was DJ David Guetta a reactionary?

(Yes, I read your comment history. I was tryinna figure out if you were in fact that guy and saw a bunch of conspiracy-ass right wing misinformation.)

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by speefers »

dawnerd wrote: post #312
sarbanharble wrote: post #158

It takes 7 clicks to turn off ads that promote eating disorders. Thats enough proof.

You can click infinite times not interested on dangerous or adult reels and they’ll just show up more and more.

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Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by CodeyWhizzBang »

davidguetta wrote: post #539
expedition32 wrote: post #534

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Children are not just the responsibility of parents it is the job of society-through government- to protect and support them. So no we can't just tell parents to deal with it.

This is not a widely shared opinion.

Is that definitely not a widely shared opinion?

I feel like I can think of lots of situations where society puts in to protect children rather than leaving it to the parents (age ratings on films and games, YouTube Kids, regulations around advertising to children, the whole concept of school, reduced speed limits around playgrounds to give a few examples off the cuff).

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by babelfish »

gzread wrote: post #467
babelfish wrote: post #329

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Yes! As Matt Levine says, “everything is securities fraud”

So if Microsoft tells me upgrading to windows 11 will make my computer better, you think that's securities fraud?

Did I say that?

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by dwedge »

jimbokun wrote: post #536
dwedge wrote: post #523

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So only lawyers should be allowed to vote, otherwise we are subjected to ad hominem attacks?

Lack of an informed populace has gotten us the government we have today in the US. I think we can do better.

It very much seems like you think you could do better. Not being a lawyer does not make someone part of an uninformed populace.
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