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How so? I can indeed target every layer of the software stack using Swift, today . E.g. ClearSurgery[0] is written fully in Swift, including the real-time components running on the Linux boxes. [0] https://clearsurgery.vision
It just works. One language. Many platforms. Incredible performance. With a simple tooling. No ugly script. Everything is naturally integrated.
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are there actually 217 keywords? Just wondering what the difference between that file and https://docs.swift.org/swift-book/documentation/the-swift-pr... (a mere 102 keywords)
That file is the compiler's list of reserved keywords, so some of them may not have been added to docs, or they're experimental/internal/... I'm not 100% sure but I think the swift doc you linked is missing at least a dozen keywords so the truth probably lies in the middle
Swift reminds me a lot of Flash back in the day. While the Flash guys had to use a native development environment and compile their stuff, I could just edit JavaScript in a plain text file and hit reload. 20 years later, and some of the same friends now swear by Swift. And have to use a native development environment and compile their stuff. While I still prefer to just edit JavaScript in a plain text file and hit re…
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Which keywords would you get rid of and why? You don't have to use all of them!
1. You don't have to use it all, but someone will. And there are over 200 keywords in the language: https://x.com/jacobtechtavern/status/1841251621004538183 2. On top of that many of the features in the language exist not because they were carefully designed, but because they were rushed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47529006
Im curious how is this used?
good to see incredible stuff being shipped in Swift. Haven't used it since v3 though. around 2015-17 - Swift could have easily dethroned Python. it was simple enough - very fast - could plug into the C/C++ ecosystem. Hence all the numeric stuff people were doing in Python powered by C++ libraries could've been done with Swift. the server ecosystem was starting to come to life, even supported by IBM. I think the letdo…
In 2015-2017 you could interop with C, C++ support wasn't added until very recently.
I do agree with you though and I am not sure what the exact reasoning is, but Swift is definitely an Apple ecosystem language despite the random efforts to gain traction elsewhere.
good to see incredible stuff being shipped in Swift. Haven't used it since v3 though. around 2015-17 - Swift could have easily dethroned Python. it was simple enough - very fast - could plug into the C/C++ ecosystem. Hence all the numeric stuff people were doing in Python powered by C++ libraries could've been done with Swift. the server ecosystem was starting to come to life, even supported by IBM. I think the letdo…
> around 2015-17 - Swift could have easily dethroned Python. Why could it? > it was simple enough - very fast - could plug into the C/C++ ecosystem. Hence all the numeric stuff people were doing in Python powered by C++ libraries could've been done with Swift. Half a dozen languages fit this description. > the server ecosystem was starting to come to life, even supported by IBM. No, not at all. Kitura, Vapor (a fitti…
But I don't know why I'd pick Swift on the server when Rust is better in almost every dimension, with a thriving and more community-driven ecosystem.
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> Swift could have easily dethroned Python No way something that compiles as slowly as Swift dethrones Python. Edit: Plus Swift goes directly against the Zen of Python > Explicit is better than implicit. > Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those! coupled with shitty LSP support (even to this day) makes code even harder to understand than when you `import *` in Python. Edit 2: To expand a littl…
Plus Swift goes directly against the Zen of Python The Zen of Python is how we got crap like argparse where arguments are placed in the namespace instead of a dict.