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Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by aucisson_masque »

jlarocco wrote: post #68
macintux wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect the reasons are (generously) keeping them out of the hands of people who would treat them poorly and perpetuate the stereotypes, or (less generously) ignorance and fear.

How they're raised makes a big difference, but natural instinct is natural instinct. It's just like how chihuahuas were bred to be small, but pit bulls were bred to fight other dogs.

In France, during many years the biggest bitter by far was the fucking golden retriever.

Speak about natural instincts... I answer that some people have zero clue what to do with a dog.

I say we put down all these golden retriever too !

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by ThePowerOfFuet »

mcpherrinm wrote: post #6
arjie wrote: post #3

I wear one of these chips on my wristwatch since the 125 kHz RFID lets me open doors and use the elevator in my building without needing to pull out my keys. It’s entirely passive so I’m guessing that the chip in question carries an ID that is read by a reader and points to an ID on some pet identification database. So she was “updating the chip” less and “keeping the database up to date” more. Ubiquitous microchips…

Yes, it's just a number referenced in one of a few databases. > The 15-digit pet microchip is the international standard (see ISO 11784:1996 and ISO 11785:1996) https://www.aaha.org/for-veterinary-professionals/microchip-... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_11784_and_ISO_11785

>the international standard

Except the United States, because of course.

ISO is 134 kHz, US has both 125 and 128 kHz.

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by aucisson_masque »

bsder wrote: post #56
thelastgallon wrote: post #8

> her beloved pit bull, Forty-Cal, had been missing for 11 years. > He's super docile and friendly. Always has been. Are pit bulls known for being docile?

> Are pit bulls known for being docile? Not really. Even "old school" working catch dogs in this breed may require a break stick to get the dog to release game. In addition, the dogs are strong . And that's really the crux of the problem. Dogs will be dogs. They can be the nicest animal on the planet, but at some point a dog will bite you--maybe you did something stupid, maybe the dog accidentally got underfoot and g…

Wanna try a rotweiler ?

All dogs can be dangerous, even small ones can bite a finger out of your hand.

Either kill all the dogs or get people who own them to be responsible.

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by aucisson_masque »

russdill wrote: post #54
sillysaurusx wrote: post #45

I don't think it's legally required for vets to check chips whenever new "owners" take them in for a visit. I've been holding out hope for reuniting with my missing cat Salt, but wherever he is, he's happily in someone else's living room. And I doubt the microchip will bring him back anytime soon. Sadly cat snatching is a real thing that's happened to me possibly twice. The first time was confirmed beyond a doubt; I…

Vets already have enough to deal with you'd be more likely to end up with undesirable outcomes vs what you want. People would not take the animal to the vet. People would try to destroy the chip by whatever method they happen to read in facebook. People would try to maliciously make changes to the database. Etc etc

> end up with undesirable outcomes

I say it would make some people think before stealing an animal.

Others, dumber, would get caught.

But almost no one is going to get a knife to get this chip our of the animal because you'll get bitten and you have no idea where to look.

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by imtringued »

bsder wrote: post #56
thelastgallon wrote: post #8

> her beloved pit bull, Forty-Cal, had been missing for 11 years. > He's super docile and friendly. Always has been. Are pit bulls known for being docile?

> Are pit bulls known for being docile? Not really. Even "old school" working catch dogs in this breed may require a break stick to get the dog to release game. In addition, the dogs are strong . And that's really the crux of the problem. Dogs will be dogs. They can be the nicest animal on the planet, but at some point a dog will bite you--maybe you did something stupid, maybe the dog accidentally got underfoot and g…

Pit bulls are more likely to bite and when they do, they hold the bite much longer than basically any other dog breed and they often require outside intervention to stop the second bite.

Once the dog has demonstrated itself to be dangerous, there is not much you can do other than euthanasia. The worst thing you can do is bring it to a shelter and let an unsuspecting family take the dangerous dog in. A lot of trouble would be saved by choosing a similar looking dog breed that isn't as aggressive or dangerous.

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by circlefavshape »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #120
tonyedgecombe wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cats have the right to roam in the UK. Keeping them locked indoors would be seen as cruel.

Excuse the language, but fucking thank you. I'm so tired of these people claiming that it's not cruel to keep a cat indoors, and that you're somehow irresponsible by letting them out. Not to mention that this wasn't even the topic of the thread! The topic was "vets should be required to verify microchips," and then along comes a crowd that goes "oooh you really shouldn't be doing that, shame shame shame on you" witho…

Cats are native to the UK, and less damaging to biodiversity than they are in the US because local wildlife has co-evolved with cats

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by mlrtime »

fractallyte wrote: post #102
bsder wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are pit bulls known for being docile? Not really. Even "old school" working catch dogs in this breed may require a break stick to get the dog to release game. In addition, the dogs are strong . And that's really the crux of the problem. Dogs will be dogs. They can be the nicest animal on the planet, but at some point a dog will bite you--maybe you did something stupid, maybe the dog accidentally got underfoot and g…

My dog bit me accidentally while playing, a few times. Every time, he apologized. (That is: he stopped playing, made a characteristic sound, and licked me to make sure I was OK.)

Was it a pit bull?

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by mlrtime »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #114

>I had other animals in the house, as well, that were family pets, but Forty was my dog," she said. "I paid for him with my own money at 16 years old." ... I don't if it's an American thing but it's not something I'd say. The dog is an animal, it feels like it's compared to a car that she paid with HER OWN MONEY and then was stolen.. Tell me you loved him, it was the one you loved the most, stuffs like that but 'i pa…

A dog is personal property (possession) under the law. What is your point?

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by mlrtime »

tha_hnrain wrote: post #73

I don't mean to sound snarky, but I wonder if people would feel the same joy if they found their lost children after a long time, or if the joy would be muddled quickly due to complicated relationships :'( . We are a very peculiar species.

You don't have kids do you?

Let me put it this way: Your life is forever ruined if you "lose" a child. I would never stop looking.

Arguably it is MUCH worse to not know what happened (no closure).

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