Miscellanea: The War in Iran • Hacker News Board

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by ActorNightly » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 8:38 AM UTC

pstuart wrote: post #257

abraxas wrote: post #235

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You elect clowns, you get a circus. The US has turned into a Wall-e society just getting off on entertainment and bored with civilized, thoughtful politicians. This is the end result of TOO MUCH prosperity for the average American. They haven't experienced true hardship in generations and we (the rest of the world) is paying the price of their hubris.

Watching helplessly from the inside is painful. What makes it worse is I know people who are intelligent and appear to not be hateful SOBs that voted for the clowns, and would do so again. It breaks my brain, and my heart.

>know people who are intelligent and appear to not be hateful SOBs that voted for the clowns, and would do so again.

They are not intelligent.

People seem to think that intelligence can be isolated. Its not. People can fake intelligence through memorizing a bunch of facts, but that's not intelligence. Every part in a persons mind influences every other part.

And its easy to test as well. Nobody who is hard conservative can answer this simple question - "What concrete, hard evidence would you need to see for you to realize you have been wrong and change your stance on which party you support?"

Its along the same lines that any stupid person doesn't realize they are stupid - if they did, they would know the differentiator between smart and stupid and thus can become smart.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by leonidasrup » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 8:39 AM UTC

triceratops wrote: post #556

leonidasrup wrote: post #427

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These 20% will still make you dependent on foreign country. For example Germany was dependent on Russian gas (before year 2022), which they later swapped for dependency on US LNG. In addition, Germany is dependent on China for PV panels.

> Germany is dependent on China for PV panels This is gas brain thinking. Panels aren't burned to make electricity. If literally everyone stops selling you panels (nearly impossible) you continue generating electricity the old way. Nothing bad happens. The panels you already have continue working. Other countries make panels too. India has a glut right now. https://solarmagazine.com/2025/08/india-solar-supply-chain-f…

You can't base energy of an modern industrial country on purely solar panels alone, they don't produce any electricity in the night and have electric output reduced by weather. You have always to combine them with other power sources for backup.

For Germany it's domestic wind + domestic coal + imported gas.

In case you ask for energy storage in Germany, the amounts are quite low. https://openenergytracker.org/en/docs/germany/storage/

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by Ms-J » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 8:45 AM UTC

Another failed war with the USA fighting to the death for israel.

Why does this happen? It is because israel blackmails American politicians.

It would be better to show all the dirty shit to the public than for the world to die for israel.

They even have missiles targeting the USA in case "they feel over run"! They are an enemy to the world.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by GJim » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 8:46 AM UTC

jmye wrote: post #426

GJim wrote: post #214

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> It is not hard, at all, for roughly 1/3 of Americans to understand this. Sorry, but I don't think they do understand. America has managed to piss off Canada FFS. And lets be honest, you've got to work really hard to piss off the Canadians. Frankly, Americans (former) allies have seen the American people VOTE for Trump. Twice. Even if Trump goes tomorrow, the (former) allies know what a significant proportion of the…

> Sorry, but I don't think they do understand. Sorry, but 1/3 of the country is deeply, keenly aware of what an absolute fucking disgrace the last year and two months have been for us on an international stage. There's no delusion, here, that Canadians are excited about being threatened with an invasion, in spite of your silly black/white post.

You're not. Really you don't understand the impact Trump has had.

Since 1945 America was a solid partner that could be mutually trusted by us all. That trust has been lost for good. There is simply no coming back from that.

_That_ is what you do not understand.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by xg15 » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 8:46 AM UTC

YZF wrote: post #667

xg15 wrote: post #575

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Israel is currently busy annexing southern Lebanon, and I don't think it's at all decided how the "hearts and minds battle" in the US will eventually end. (Or how important the popular support even is) So right now, the state of the war is a win for Israel.

Israel isn't "annexing southern Lebanon". Israel already controlled southern Lebanon and withdrew. Even recently Israel was deeper in southern Lebanon and withdrew - and is now paying the price for that. Israel was already in Beirut .. and not so long ago ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Beirut ) Israel is pushing back Hezbollah that's attacking Israel's north. Hezbollah decided to join the war and it's firin…

And incidentally destroying all villages and emptying the area of all residents while they at it, then destroying the bridges that connect the region to the rest of the country.

Katz is indeed still talking about a "buffer zone", while Smotrich demands a "permanent change of borders". The settler movement has already drawn maps.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-security/2026-03-...

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-politics/2026-03-...

> Israel already controlled southern Lebanon and withdrew.

I don't get what you want to say with that statement. It was already theirs to begin with?

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by don_esteban » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 8:49 AM UTC

gzread wrote: post #691

anticodon wrote: post #424

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West is living in its own bubble of misinformation. Including the government. On many occasions I've read self-soothing wishful thinking messages about my country. In 2022 it was that Russian army is fleeing, all Russian tanks were burned down, and Russian soldiers are deserting from a front lines with a speed of 100,000 persons a day. Here on HN. Written by the people who had no clue how to distinguish Russian tank…

How can you convince me that your real information is more real than my real information?

Just observe the consequences and use brains (try to ignore ideological blinders).

The Russian economy has not collapsed.

The Russian military has not collapsed.

The Iranian regime has not collapsed.

The Ukrainian regime/state/military has not collapsed. Nor has it reconquered the territory it has lost.

Wait a bit and see if Trump's regime/presidency collapses or not. The same for Iran/Russia/Ukraine/Israel.

The strains (societal/economical/geopolitical) are great and rising, something will give out... (no sanity in sight)

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by ActorNightly » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 8:54 AM UTC

Dig1t wrote: post #299

abraxas wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You elect clowns, you get a circus. The US has turned into a Wall-e society just getting off on entertainment and bored with civilized, thoughtful politicians. This is the end result of TOO MUCH prosperity for the average American. They haven't experienced true hardship in generations and we (the rest of the world) is paying the price of their hubris.

From the article: >Israel could force the United States into a war with Iran at any time. >It should go without saying that creating the conditions where the sometimes unpredictable junior partner in a security relationship can unilaterally bring the senior partner into a major conflict is an enormous strategic error, precisely because it means you end up in a war when it is in the junior partner’s interests to do so…

2 things.

First, this "both sides bad" take isn't fooling anyone. Everyone sees through your bullshit that you are pro Trump. Like its easy to tell from just this comment, but if anyone thinks Im being super presumptions, feel free to looks at your comment history and you will see Im right.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46890675#46891294

Secondly, the shitty thing for you is that the conservatives in charge have shown themselves to be just very inept. They could have honesty just rode the rest of Trumps term in silence, and Trump would still have been very popular despite the tarrifs, but they had to fuck it up in the most grandeur way possible of starting a new war.

Which means that Republicans are going to lose the support of the average person who is clueless about politics, and can vote one way or another based on vibes, and

Which means Dems are likely going to take a lot of the power back. At which point, it will become socially acceptable to "punish" conservatives and pro Trump people. There is already work going on to process internet comments and extract patterns of speech to cross correlate them across varying accounts on social media to id certain people, and if id'ed you better believe your work, your family, your friends, and whomever else you are going to be connected to are going to get spammed and your life ruined as much as possible.

So Imma be the nice guy and tell you to tighten up you OPSEC because you are doing an extremely poor job at it.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by gloosx » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 8:55 AM UTC

khhu2bnn wrote: post #26

The amazing part to me is just the perceived invincibility this small circle within the US administration has. You can find dozens of articles with a search limited to Feb 1~Feb 27, plenty of analysis warning of the risks that have now become reality, everything - the strait, no revolution, further radicalization, critically low US stockpiles, abandoning other US partners, gulf destabilization, etc. In the fantasy im…

>In the fantasy imagination of some people

Could it be fantasy reinforced by some LLM "advisors"? I have a strong feeling that the people in US administration are talking to LLMs which constantly reassure them that their imagination is the best

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by don_esteban » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 8:57 AM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #787

don_esteban wrote: post #780

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Re: Trying to cause a revolution from abroad just doesn't work. Are you just blindly ignoring all 'regime changes' supported/caused by US (i.e. from abroad) since WW2? Some of them do not work (this one is especially botched). Many, many have succeeded (the initial change), with typically less successful outcomes over longer time frames. And you are totally missing the point of the remark about Lenin and Germany's pa…

> Are you just blindly ignoring all 'regime changes' supported/caused by US (i.e. from abroad) since WW2? What fraction was popular revolt versus military coup? Engineered from afar? > totally missing the point of the remark about Lenin and Germany's part (essentially sending him to destabilize Russia Oh fair, I did miss this. I would argue this is leveling up an existing revolution. But sure, this is the closest N =…

What fraction was engineered 'popular revolt'? Read up a bit on the color revolutions... e.g. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/nov/26/ukraine.usa

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Post by ActorNightly » Thu, Mar 26, 2026, 9:03 AM UTC

GolfPopper wrote: post #19

bawolff wrote: post #6

> And I do want to stress that. There is a frequent mistake, often from folks who deal in economics, to assume that countries will give up on wars when the economics turn bad. But countries are often very willing to throw good money after bad even on distant wars of choice. On the other hand isn't this how the russian revolution happened? An economic crisis due to a prolonged war leading to a revolution? While i woul…

I would not wager money on a revolution coming from this war, either. But if a revolution does come as a result of the war, it seems at least as likely to be in the United States as in Iran.

There is zero shot that a revolution is happening in United States.

Trump could literally go on TV and r*e a kid on stage in 4k, and most people would go to work and be like "damn what weird times are we living in"

If shit gets bad enough economically to where there are food shortages and such, you will see US split before any revolution happens.