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Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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sojournerc wrote: post #59
OptionOfT wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

24 EU countries have mandatory dog micro-chipping. In Belgium there is a centralized database in which the data is maintained. When I moved to the USA I thought it was very weird that it wasn't done automatically, and that there are many databases out there. In fact, one went bust a while ago: https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/microchip-company-cl... Now what? Gotta pay to have 18 digits and an address inserted…

Coloradan with all chipped pets for decades. Not sure where you're coming from. Our friend was reunited with a cat with a chip that was lost for a 6 months. Shitting on the US is great for karma these days

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Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by john_strinlai »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #67
Brybry wrote: post #62

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> Free-ranging cats on islands have caused or contributed to 33 (14%) of the modern bird, mammal and reptile extinctions recorded by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) Red List [1] Cats are probably a leading cause of mortality in birds. [2] Domestic cats are not native to North America. The birds here would not have evolved to avoid them (and beyond that, domestic cat numbers are not limited b…

Thank you for the well-sourced reply. Suppose it's true that cats are bad for bird populations. The implication is that just because birds are dying, it's okay to snatch a cat. More than that, that cats should be imprisoned for their entire lives, when they naturally want to roam. Someone can take one side of this ethical debate or the other, and both sides probably won't agree. I personally find it sad that people w…

>The implication is that just because birds are dying, it's okay to snatch a cat.

the implication is that if you want a cat, you should be responsible and keep it indoors.

>But again, the cost here is "removing, by force, someone's beloved pet."

no, the cost is keeping your cat indoors.

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by tha_hnrain »

I don't mean to sound snarky, but I wonder if people would feel the same joy if they found their lost children after a long time, or if the joy would be muddled quickly due to complicated relationships :'( . We are a very peculiar species.

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by sillysaurusx »

john_strinlai wrote: post #72
sillysaurusx wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you for the well-sourced reply. Suppose it's true that cats are bad for bird populations. The implication is that just because birds are dying, it's okay to snatch a cat. More than that, that cats should be imprisoned for their entire lives, when they naturally want to roam. Someone can take one side of this ethical debate or the other, and both sides probably won't agree. I personally find it sad that people w…

> The implication is that just because birds are dying, it's okay to snatch a cat. the implication is that if you want a cat, you should be responsible and keep it indoors. > But again, the cost here is "removing, by force, someone's beloved pet." no, the cost is keeping your cat indoors.

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Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by thatcat »

grantith wrote: post #65
hinkley wrote: post #42

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The dumbest thing I’ve done in the last ten years was stick my hands in the mouth of a “docile and friendly” pitty to extract a screaming puppy. Only afterward did I realized I almost destroyed my livelihood. My partner Google stalked the owner and discovered that he’d been force to surrender another pit bull two years earlier.

The lucky ones learn about the finger in the butt and hind leg wheel barrow maneuvers before they have to use them.

You might need something like rebar to stick in the back of the mouth and pull back when that doesn't work

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by john_strinlai »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #74
john_strinlai wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The implication is that just because birds are dying, it's okay to snatch a cat. the implication is that if you want a cat, you should be responsible and keep it indoors. > But again, the cost here is "removing, by force, someone's beloved pet." no, the cost is keeping your cat indoors.

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>If you're not going to bother putting in any effort into the debate, please don't participate at all.

you are "debating" against a fictional argument. no one is saying that it is okay to steal or "remove by force" someones pet.

they presented you with several citations about how damaging house cats are (and there are several more, you can start at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat_predation_on_wildlife) and you said... "nu uh".

>I'm looking after for my cat's wellbeing, not some bird's

wildly selfish statement.

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by kelnos »

olalonde wrote: post #39

I wonder how the dog survived for 11 years... Surely he wasn't a stray that entire time?

The article mentions that the woman suspected the dog was stolen. So perhaps he did live with someone for many years, and was either found after running away, or... something.

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by kelnos »

OptionOfT wrote: post #32
ViktorRay wrote: post #2

These microchips are amazing technology. I highly highly encourage all you pet lovers to obtain one for your little homie. You never know when you’ll need it.

24 EU countries have mandatory dog micro-chipping. In Belgium there is a centralized database in which the data is maintained. When I moved to the USA I thought it was very weird that it wasn't done automatically, and that there are many databases out there. In fact, one went bust a while ago: https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/microchip-company-cl... Now what? Gotta pay to have 18 digits and an address inserted…

Like many things in the US, there's no centralized authority that mandates this sort of thing. Some states have laws around this some don't. For those that don't, some counties or cities might have laws around this. Belgium of course has a stronger central government, small land area, and a small population, so I'm not surprised that something like that would be done country-wide.

The shelter in my city chips every animal before anyone can adopt them. It's honestly bonkers to me why anyone who has a pet wouldn't chip them. It's cheap (especially when considering the cost of a regular vet visit), and can save you from lots of heartbreak later on.

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by kelnos »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #67
Brybry wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Free-ranging cats on islands have caused or contributed to 33 (14%) of the modern bird, mammal and reptile extinctions recorded by the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN) Red List [1] Cats are probably a leading cause of mortality in birds. [2] Domestic cats are not native to North America. The birds here would not have evolved to avoid them (and beyond that, domestic cat numbers are not limited b…

Thank you for the well-sourced reply. Suppose it's true that cats are bad for bird populations. The implication is that just because birds are dying, it's okay to snatch a cat. More than that, that cats should be imprisoned for their entire lives, when they naturally want to roam. Someone can take one side of this ethical debate or the other, and both sides probably won't agree. I personally find it sad that people w…

> The implication is that just because birds are dying, it's okay to snatch a cat.

I don't think anyone's implying that? It just seems foolish to let your cat roam about. Not only are they at risk of getting stolen, but the risks of getting injured/killed or sick (or poisoned) are so much higher than if you keep them at home.

Whenever I hear about someone who's distraught about an outdoor cat of theirs that died while outside, I feel super bad for the cat, and not quite so much for the owner. That death could have been prevented, trivially.

Re: Woman who never stopped updating her lost dog's chip reunites with him after 11y

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Post by kelnos »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #74
john_strinlai wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The implication is that just because birds are dying, it's okay to snatch a cat. the implication is that if you want a cat, you should be responsible and keep it indoors. > But again, the cost here is "removing, by force, someone's beloved pet." no, the cost is keeping your cat indoors.

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> I'm looking after for my cat's wellbeing, not some bird's

What a selfish way to look at things. So you think it's fine to bring invasive species into a new environment and let them damage the local ecosystem? Cool cool cool.

If you were truly looking after your cat's well-being, you'd keep them inside in the first place. Their attachment to roaming about is not as strong or essential as you seem to think it is.

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