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Tired of AI When will this era end?

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Re: Tired of AI When will this era end?

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Post by unsupp0rted »

avaer wrote: post #10
unsupp0rted wrote: post #8

> the most beautiful thing in the Tech was taken away from us… coding Yes, there'll be casualties. The most beautiful thing in tech isn't coding: it's producing value at scale.

That's like saying the most beautiful thing in painting isn't the painting... it's selling gallery tickets.

It's like saying the most beautiful thing about a painting is not the smell of the paint

Re: Tired of AI When will this era end?

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Post by cicko »

avaer wrote: post #10
unsupp0rted wrote: post #8

> the most beautiful thing in the Tech was taken away from us… coding Yes, there'll be casualties. The most beautiful thing in tech isn't coding: it's producing value at scale.

That's like saying the most beautiful thing in painting isn't the painting... it's selling gallery tickets.

I am yet to hear about painting factories or teams of painters creating complex paintings. It's a great hobby, just like coding will soon be. There are a few fantastic painters, and there will be a few fantastic software engineers, I guess.

Re: Tired of AI When will this era end?

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Post by lnfromx »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #8

> the most beautiful thing in the Tech was taken away from us… coding Yes, there'll be casualties. The most beautiful thing in tech isn't coding: it's producing value at scale.

Problem is LLMs still produce very often code that disappoints. This ereases trust in it for me and makes me always regret the decision to try it yet again. In order to cope with that I try to read and understand the code to verify. But then there is no "scaling of value produced" because its not really faster than doing it all by myself - is this a me problem ? LLMs are no doubt great for searching, generating ideas etc. but programming...?

Re: Tired of AI When will this era end?

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Post by SaucyWrong »

You aren’t alone. If you look at my favorite submissions you’ll find some articles written by others that feel the same way.

My advice, keep your skills and brain sharp, use LLMs in your workflow a little to stay under management’s radar. Try to find a line where you can still have fun in this job while sprinkling some LLM use in. Avoid the hype on this site and others.

It is not wrong to enjoy coding for the sake of the craft. Suspect anybody who tells you otherwise.

How well has this advice worked for me? I can’t say yet, I’m still trying to figure it out too. But I’m with you. I’ve been called a Luddite and worse, but if I’m forced to give away all the parts of this job I love the most, I’d rather do something else with my life. Maybe it will come to that. I wish you the best of luck.

Re: Tired of AI When will this era end?

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Post by Twey »

Vibe coding is painful mostly just because natural language is bad for programming in. Give it a couple of iterations and statistical programming will be at least as enjoyable as deterministic programming is today :)

Re: Tired of AI When will this era end?

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Post by ahartmetz »

cicko wrote: post #12
avaer wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's like saying the most beautiful thing in painting isn't the painting... it's selling gallery tickets.

I am yet to hear about painting factories or teams of painters creating complex paintings. It's a great hobby, just like coding will soon be. There are a few fantastic painters, and there will be a few fantastic software engineers, I guess.

>I am yet to hear about painting factories or teams of painters creating complex paintings

There you go.

https://medium.com/lean-canvas-takedown/economic-lessons-fro...

Re: Tired of AI When will this era end?

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Post by thimking »

You are not alone. Nobody asked me either, if I want this. I don't want this. AI-bots make us worse at thinking for ourselves.

I cannot think of a worse fate for us all. Thousands of years of effort to improve our collective mind, our collective understanding, costing countless lives and suffering, and all is being taken away by a few companies and unbridled marked mechanisms.

It really weights heavy on my heart.

Re: Tired of AI When will this era end?

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Post by il-b »

While engineering managers are enamored with the thing, it will go on. But, the agentic development will ruin multiple companies and become unfashionable. Bet on your skills, taste, and intuition. Don’t fall into fomo.
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