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Antimatter has been transported for the first time

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Re: Antimatter has been transported for the first time

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You can carry exactly (or roughly) as much energy in the form of antimatter as you would energy in the form of fuel.

The problem is that a tiny leak will eat away your spacecraft, thereby making the situation worse.

A very different problem then the one I proposed an answer to, no?

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The mention Dan Brown in the article! This book occupies a special place in my heart and I was glad to see it mentioned.

Not being funny but I only ever see Dan Brown mentioned in a mocking tone. I've genuinely no idea, but are the books actually good in some sense?

I just read Angels and Demons. My take is that it is quite gripping and entertaining, and has no other virtues. The prose is just ok, and everything built above that is increasingly nonsensical. However, I'll endorse burkaman's reply as an equally accurate and more charitable review. :)

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Stop, driver should have license for hauling antimatter and as far as I believe no one is giving those out. That’s major offense in trucking industry.

I'm glad we have an expert on Swiss commercial trucking regulations here.

All I know is that you cannot transport toilet paper in tunnels.

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There are a lot of completely random statements about how much a gram costs floating around out there. Anywhere from $60T to $3,000T. According to, Michael Doser, a prominent particle physicist at CERN, "one 100th of a nanogram [of antimatter] costs as much as one kilogram of gold." S: https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2023-02-19/antimatter-fa...

> According to, Michael Doser, a prominent particle physicist at CERN, "one 100th of a nanogram [of antimatter] costs as much as one kilogram of gold." Those aren't comparable costs. The cost given for antimatter is the cost of producing it from nothing. The cost given for gold is the market price of buying gold that already exists. Consider the cost of producing one kilogram of gold from nothing. (Consider also the…

Please do take it up w/Doser from CERN and/or the author of the source article; I just was parroting what he was quoted as saying.

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Which seems suprisingly high given that it's 92 protons worth of antimatter!

Definitely, I've had a mosquito hit me while flying and you can actually feel it hit your skin.

The subject of this story is a single proton that you would definitely feel if it hit you: https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/OhMyGodParticle/

Re: Antimatter has been transported for the first time

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I wonder what would happen if you had a solid piece of antimatter, say a gram of anti-iron... and just set it down. Would it really annihaliate immediately on contact with air, a lab table, or anything... or would the normal forces that keep us from falling through things still be in effect?

Either nothing would happen, or like molten salt in water, the joule currents would be instant and drive it all to go boom in a big way. I wonder which.

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> If you're ok with the looming threat of total annihilation. Don't you have that problem with any energy-dense fuel? It's just that it doesn get more dense than that, so you can be very space and weight efficient. It's like everybody saying that a hydrogen car is a rolling bomb because of the energy stored in the hydrogen. Well, sure, but gasonline has just as much energy stored. Which is the whole point of fuel. To…

Antimatter is a completely different story. The difference is that antimatter annihilates with any normal matter that it comes into contact with. This means you can't just put it in a tank, the way you can with hydrogen. You can't e.g. combine it with some metal to make a metal hydride to make it safer to store, the way you can with hydrogen. At an absolute minimum, you need extremely strong magnetic confinement and…

How is it possible to make as hard of vacuum as they did? I assume it's not perfect, so what's the trick? Does the magnet setup create a volume that's simultaneously high probability for antimatter and low for everything else?

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When we're talking scales like 10^-23, "one" and "one sixth" are comparable enough to warrant an "approximately".

I'm not sure! One is just barely within human scale and one isn't. I think I could feel the impact of a mosquito on a sufficiently sensitive patch of skin. I'm not sure I could do the same with one sixth of a mosquito. Its like the difference between something I can lift (100 lb) and something I definitely cannot lift (600lb)

Even though you can't lift the 600 lb object it's still in the correct ballpark for illustrative purposes when dealing with orders of magnitude.

In a similar vein a 20 gallon fishtank and a small bathtub are approximately the same despite that I can't actually fit in the 20 gallon fishtank myself.

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It would be trivial to reroute power from the secondary systems to the forward shields anyway

But we have to reroute power from life support because auxiliary systems are down!

Only on the unoccupied decks!
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