They hate us for our freedoms.
A shame the EU is just simulation of democracy.
Best case in point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar_corruption_scandal_at_th...
The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's client side scanning.
You can refuse to use software that does it.
Like others said: this is implemented on operating system level, locally.
There isn't much escape other than using messengers which encrypt the data locally. Geogram radio is doing this.
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#114I absolutely don't understand how anyone can support this in the context of rising authoritarianism. Even people in my country which are talking about this phenomena support it. I strongly suspect that they do absolutely know shit about why it's problematic. I wonder if they would support that every of paper mail would be opened and checked. I strongly doubt that.
Because social cohesion is also breaking down (which is also by design). People increasingly do not trust and can not rely on neighbors and their fellow citizens to share similar interests and look out for one another. And they have much less power to organize with other citizens to petition their government.
So they feel they must turn to the state for protection.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel we need something much more strongly worded to protect our mail, paper or electronic, messages and other communications from being read, not just “respect”.
This exists in a number of EU member states: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secrecy_of_correspondence
The problem is, in all of those member states, they all have carve outs for "national security."
Germany, for exmaple, has secrecy of correspondence that extends to electronic communications, but allows for "restrictions to protect the free democratic basic order" and outlines when intelligence services can bypass the right to privacy.
Italy, France, and Polan also have similar carve outs.
Having it as a right isn't enough. National security and "public safety" carve outs need to be eliminated. So long as those exist, we have no right to privacy.
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#116The trick here is to make it impossible to do so. Don’t put your shit in the cloud and use proper E2E secure messaging. For me the entire idea of the cloud is dead due to exposure like this.
People on HN but also criminals will know how circumvent this. But the average person will be completely lost in this surveillance apparatus. It's going to affect the wrong people.
I’ve been eternally surprised at how non technical people work around problems. I mean I have a totally technology illiterate family member who worked out how to torrent films and watch them and install ublock and Firefox.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
This exists in a number of EU member states: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secrecy_of_correspondence
The problem is, in all of those member states, they all have carve outs for "national security." Germany, for exmaple, has secrecy of correspondence that extends to electronic communications, but allows for "restrictions to protect the free democratic basic order" and outlines when intelligence services can bypass the right to privacy. Italy, France, and Polan also have similar carve outs. Having it as a right isn't…
Rights are never absolute, they always have to be weighed against each other. The weighing can and should be debated, and needs strong protections when put into practice, but demanding an absolute is not reasonable.
Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos
#119The trick here is to make it impossible to do so. Don’t put your shit in the cloud and use proper E2E secure messaging. For me the entire idea of the cloud is dead due to exposure like this.
That's one of the tricks. The other trick is to vote in universal right for encrypted communication once and for all.
That’s the best answer. But you’re up against paid up lobbyists.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can refuse to use software that does it.
Like others said: this is implemented on operating system level, locally. There isn't much escape other than using messengers which encrypt the data locally. Geogram radio is doing this.
I’d rather use an older or open source OS without it