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The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by vaylian »

derefr wrote: post #13

So... if we all care so much about shooting down the bad idea, why is nobody proposing opposite legislation: a bill enshrining a right to private communications, such that bills like this one would become impossible to even table? Is it just that there's no "privacy lobby" interested in getting even one lawyer around to sit down and write it up? Or is there at least one such bill floating around, but no EU member sta…

Past laws of this type are:

- The GDPR

- The ePrivacy directive, which is explicitly derogated (sabotaged) by chat control 1.0

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by port11 »

petermcneeley wrote: post #49
triska wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoting from the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union , https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:12... : "Article 7 Respect for private and family life Everyone has the right to respect for his or her private and family life, home and communications. Article 8 Protection of personal data 1. Everyone has the right to the protection of personal data concerning him or her. 2. Such data mu…

You know that those pieces of paper mean nothing.

The Charter has been used by the courts to shoot down incoming legislation. So, in a way, those pieces of paper mean everything, as without them legislation would pass without the judiciary branch being a check on the Bloc’s powers. Your comment is merely cynical.

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by AnssiH »

tosti wrote: post #42
seanthemon wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modern democracy

Wait until you find out it's actually already implemented and they're trying to legitimise it.

The proposal they are voting on is about continuing the current time-limited implementation (voluntary scanning, Regulation (EU) 2021/1232).

This is not about mandatory scanning.

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by vaylian »

dgxyz wrote: post #25

The trick here is to make it impossible to do so. Don’t put your shit in the cloud and use proper E2E secure messaging. For me the entire idea of the cloud is dead due to exposure like this.

People on HN but also criminals will know how circumvent this. But the average person will be completely lost in this surveillance apparatus. It's going to affect the wrong people.

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by cess11 »

tosti wrote: post #42
seanthemon wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Modern democracy

Wait until you find out it's actually already implemented and they're trying to legitimise it.

It was one of the things Ylva Johansson infamously said about it, Microsoft and Apple are already doing it so what's the big deal?

Makes me think about this clip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjhsLq3-ZWE

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by lostmsu »

dgxyz wrote: post #25

The trick here is to make it impossible to do so. Don’t put your shit in the cloud and use proper E2E secure messaging. For me the entire idea of the cloud is dead due to exposure like this.

That's one of the tricks. The other trick is to vote in universal right for encrypted communication once and for all.
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