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Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by freehorse »

vrganj wrote: post #22
ab5tract wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you clarify what you mean? The linked website makes it seem that the majority MEPs of the supporting countries are on board. Are all of the (listed as) supporting countries currently under conservative governments?

To quote the banner on said website: > The Conservatives (EPP) are attempting to force a new vote on Thursday (26th), seeking to reverse Parliament's NO on indiscriminate scanning. The vote itself is being forced by the EPP. This article by an MEP has more info: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/the-battle-over-chat-contro...

This does not mean that only EPP supports the bill, though.

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by Macha »

petermcneeley wrote: post #49
triska wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoting from the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union , https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:12... : "Article 7 Respect for private and family life Everyone has the right to respect for his or her private and family life, home and communications. Article 8 Protection of personal data 1. Everyone has the right to the protection of personal data concerning him or her. 2. Such data mu…

You know that those pieces of paper mean nothing.

In theory these limit the power of the EU, while anything the EU parliament passes can just be undone as easily by a future EU parliament. If you don't believe the EU charter provides any protection, why would you believe an EU law would be any different?

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by vrganj »

freehorse wrote: post #61
vrganj wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To quote the banner on said website: > The Conservatives (EPP) are attempting to force a new vote on Thursday (26th), seeking to reverse Parliament's NO on indiscriminate scanning. The vote itself is being forced by the EPP. This article by an MEP has more info: https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/the-battle-over-chat-contro...

This does not mean that only EPP supports the bill, though.

No, but it does mean the attempt is attributable to them.

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by [deleted] »

petermcneeley wrote: post #49
triska wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoting from the Charter of Fundamental Rights of the European Union , https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:12... : "Article 7 Respect for private and family life Everyone has the right to respect for his or her private and family life, home and communications. Article 8 Protection of personal data 1. Everyone has the right to the protection of personal data concerning him or her. 2. Such data mu…

You know that those pieces of paper mean nothing.

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Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by x775 »

I am the creator of Fight Chat Control.

Thank you for sharing. It is unfortunately, once again, needed.

The recent events have been rather dumbfounding. On March 11, the Parliament surprisingly voted to replace blanket mass surveillance with targeted monitoring of suspects following judicial involvement [0]. As Council refused to compromise, the trilogue negotiations were set to fail, thus allowing the Commission's current indiscriminate "Chat Control 1.0" to lapse [1]. This would have been the ideal outcome.

In an unprecedented move, the EPP is attempting to force a repeat vote tomorrow, seeking to overturn the otherwise principled March 11 decision and instead favouring indiscriminate mass surveillance [1, 2]. In an attempt to avoid this, the Greens earlier today tried to remove the repeat vote from the agenda tomorrow, but this was voted down [3].

As such, tomorrow, the Parliament will once again vote on Chat Control. And unlike March 11, multiple groups are split on the vote, including S&D and Renew. The EPP remains unified in its support for Chat Control. If you are a European citizen, I urge you to contact your MEPs by e-mail and, if you have time, by calling. We really are in the final stretch here and every action counts. I have just updated the website to reflect the votes today, allowing a more targeted approach.

Happy to answer any questions.

[0] https://mepwatch.eu/10/vote.html?v=188578

[1] https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/the-battle-over-chat-contro...

[2] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/OJQ-10-2026-03...

[3] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/PV-10-2026-03-...

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by Findecanor »

vrganj wrote: post #43
Findecanor wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Das musst du jetzt aber mal den Amerikanern erklären ;-)

Oder... sie könnten jemanden aus Süd- oder Mittelamerika fragen, was das Wort „Amerika“ für ihn bedeutet.

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by jiggawatts »

nomel wrote: post #51
kleiba wrote: post #21

If you're ever unsure about whether a proposed EU regulation may be good or bad, just look at whether Hungary supports it: if so, it's bad; if not, it might be good. Egészségére!

There a practical reason for this? like more alignment with lobbyists, for whatever financial reasons?

Over the last two decades Hungary reversed course from a democracy joining the west to an authoritarian dictatorship in bed with the Russians.

Hence, everything their government does is the opposite of what a typical European Union member would approve of.

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by Macha »

nomel wrote: post #51
kleiba wrote: post #21

If you're ever unsure about whether a proposed EU regulation may be good or bad, just look at whether Hungary supports it: if so, it's bad; if not, it might be good. Egészségére!

There a practical reason for this? like more alignment with lobbyists, for whatever financial reasons?

Hungary is governed by a Russia aligned autocrat. This generally does not align with the priorities of the rest of the EU.

Re: The EU still wants to scan your private messages and photos

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Post by jiggawatts »

elzbardico wrote: post #9

They never quit. They just waited for something else to dominate the news, so they could fly it under the radar. The war started, so, they felt it was now or never.

Who is "they"?

That's the key question!

There's a small group of very powerful people that keep pushing this agenda.

Who are those people?

Find out.

Publicize their names. Make their corruption visible and linked to their identity.

In case anyone has an issue with this: Remember! This is what they want! For you! Not for them. Only the plebs.

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