> This approach aligns with established industry practices "others are doing it too so it's ok"
Ackshually Anthropic is opt-in AND they give you discounts if you enable it
Updates to GitHub Copilot interaction data usage policy
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#43> On April 24 we'll start using GitHub Copilot interaction data for AI model training unless you opt out. Review this update and manage your preferences in your GitHub account settings. Now "Allow GitHub to use my data for AI model training" is enabled by default. Turn it off here: https://github.com/settings/copilot/features Do they have this set on business accounts also by default? If so, this is really shady.
> Do they have this set on business accounts also by default? If so, this is really shady. Looks like not, but would it actually have been shadier, or are we just used to individual users being fucked over?
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#44Two issues with this: 1- Vulnerabilities, Secrets can be leaked to other users. 2- Intellectual Property, can also be leaked to other users. Most smart clients won't opt-out, they will just cut usage entirely.
That's me. Frankly, looking at just uninstalling VSCode because Copilot straight-up gets in the way of so much, and they stopped even bothering with features that are not related to it (with one exception of native browser in v112, which, admittedly, is great)
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#45Is it legal ? Surely not in any EU countries.
Does it even matter? They trained AI on obviously copyrighted and even pirated content. If this change is legally significant and a legal breach, the existence of all models and all AI businesses also is illegal.
It might or might not be legal, but it seems materially worse to screw over your direct customers than to violate the social-contracty nature of copyright law. But hey ho if you're not paying then you're the product, as ever was.
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#46> From April 24 onward, interaction data—specifically inputs, outputs, code snippets, and associated context—from Copilot Free, Pro, and Pro+ users will be used to train and improve our AI models unless they opt out. Now is the time to run off of GitHub and consider Codeberg or self hosting like I said before. [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22867803
Codeberg doesn't support non OSS and I'd rather just have one 'git' thing I have to know for both OSS and private work. So it's not a great option, IMO. Self-hosting also for other reasons.
I'm not sure there are any good GitHub alternatives. I don't trust Gitlab either. Their landing page title currently starts with "Finally, AI". Eek.
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#47If you scroll down to "Allow GitHub to use my data for AI model training" in GitHub settings, you can enable or disable it. However, what really gets me is how they pitch it like it’s some kind of user-facing feature: Enabled = You will have access to the feature Disabled = You won't have access to the feature As if handing over your data for free is a perk. Kinda hilarious.
I went to check on this and I have everything copilot related disabled and in the two bars that measure usage my Copilot Chat usage was somehow in 2%, how is this possible? Before anyone comes to me to sell me on AI, this is on my personal account, I have and use it in my business account (but it is a completely different user account), I just make it a point to not use it in my personal time so I can keep my skills…
Does Github count it as copilot chat usage when you use AI search form on their website, I wonder?
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#48It’s not clear to me how GitHub would enforce the “we don’t use enterprise repos” stuff alongside “we will use free tier copilot for training”.
A user can be a contributor to a private repository, but not have that repository owner organisation’s license to use copilot. They can still use their personal free tier copilot on that repository.
How can enterprises be confident that their IP isn’t being absorbed into the GH models in that scenario?
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#49So, how does this work with source-available code, that’s still licensed as proprietary - or released under a license which requires attribution?
If someone takes that code and pokes around on it with a free tier copilot account, GitHub will just absorb it into their model - even if it’s explicitly against that code’s license to do so?
Re: Updates to GitHub Copilot interaction data usage policy
#50> On April 24 we'll start using GitHub Copilot interaction data for AI model training unless you opt out. Review this update and manage your preferences in your GitHub account settings. Now "Allow GitHub to use my data for AI model training" is enabled by default. Turn it off here: https://github.com/settings/copilot/features Do they have this set on business accounts also by default? If so, this is really shady.
https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/188488 > Why are you only using data from individuals while excluding businesses and enterprises? > Our agreements with Business and Enterprise customers prohibit using their Copilot interaction data for model training, and we honor those commitments. Individual users on Free, Pro, and Pro+ plans have control over their data and can opt out at any time.
Aka "they have lawyers and you usually don't, so we think we can get away with it."