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Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Post by basch »

awongh wrote: post #366

As part of the ongoing enshittification of the internet, tragedy of the commons etc., these big centralized internet platforms decided that instead of being responsible and making their products *slightly* less terrible it was better to maximize short term engagement metrics, and that, egotistically, the chance of there being real consequences for their actions was near zero. (Or, even more cynically, that their year…

Watching Mark testify before the senate it honestly appears like it may have never occurred to him that it is an option to have not offered a feature. He treats the product as if it is some kind of inevitable outcome that was destined to exist.

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Post by sharemywin »

WarcrimeActual wrote: post #348

I haven't read this article, but I can tell you for certain that no verdict was handed down that will punish them in any way that matters. They have and generate more money than they could ever spend and they're functionally above the law because of the money and lawyers they can afford. The law itself is broken in this country and when you get big enough you can literally get away with murder.

they should give voting stock out as punishment.

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WarcrimeActual wrote: post #348

I haven't read this article, but I can tell you for certain that no verdict was handed down that will punish them in any way that matters. They have and generate more money than they could ever spend and they're functionally above the law because of the money and lawyers they can afford. The law itself is broken in this country and when you get big enough you can literally get away with murder.

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Post by johnnyanmac »

bovermyer wrote: post #365
WarcrimeActual wrote: post #348

I haven't read this article, but I can tell you for certain that no verdict was handed down that will punish them in any way that matters. They have and generate more money than they could ever spend and they're functionally above the law because of the money and lawyers they can afford. The law itself is broken in this country and when you get big enough you can literally get away with murder.

If history is any indication, only demonstrable threat of personal erasure will affect the behavior of people on this scale. By "erasure," I'm not referring to the death of the involved; I'm referring to the elimination of the individual's social capital. When the privileged lose their ability to influence others, they tend to get rather distressed.

How would we do that here? Make Zuckerberg divest from FB or Meta as a whole? Would that be possible?

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Post by jazzpush2 »

Name and shame the managers and leadership at this time. I dream of a world where they'd be recognized and shamed in the streets for all the damage they've done to society. Instead they get to do all kinds of side quests with their money.

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Post by expedition32 »

Manuel_D wrote: post #240
expedition32 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech bros deliberately made digital crack for kids and corporations refuse to moderate online content. There is no conspiracy the general public is faced with a crisis and they are desperate for a solution. The teen suicide statistics do not lie.

> The teen suicide statistics do not lie. Teen suicide rates in the US are lower now than they were in the 1990s.

The world is bigger than the US.

Anyway you can go on HN and deny there is a problem but you will lose public opinion and crucially the voting booth.

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Post by cogman10 »

awongh wrote: post #366

As part of the ongoing enshittification of the internet, tragedy of the commons etc., these big centralized internet platforms decided that instead of being responsible and making their products *slightly* less terrible it was better to maximize short term engagement metrics, and that, egotistically, the chance of there being real consequences for their actions was near zero. (Or, even more cynically, that their year…

What's horribly frustrating with the age ID stuff is that the issue at question with Meta wasn't that they didn't know what they were doing and that they were doing it to children. They did. This wasn't an issue of "If only they had the the age, then they could have done the right thing".

The laws being passed target exactly the wrong thing that wasn't a problem. They should have been passing "duty to care" laws aimed at social media companies not "give me your age" laws.

I may have missed it, but almost all these laws being passed for this issue have been pretty much solely around data collection rather than modifying the behavior of the worst businesses in the game.

It would be like seeing a car wreck kill a bunch of pedestrians and then passing a law that pedestrians need to carry IDs on them.

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Post by inetknght »

ehl0 wrote: post #374
billfor wrote: post #344

and also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47514916 It might be good to roll all the comments together.

two separate cases.

Both articles cite a New Mexico case about the Unfair Practices act.

Though I don't see a link to a specific case in either article, I don't think they're separate cases.

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