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Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

NoKings is this weekend, millions are speaking out together

Yes. The problem is, it is only this weekend.

1. It's the first of the year, there will be more NoKings

2. There are many more protest besides NoKings

3. Direct Action is better than no action. We only vote once every 1/2/4 years. This helps get people moving, to take their first steps. Case in point, this year I am printing whistles and information

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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So is the allegation that this private intelligence firm tried to induce members of the government party to offer a bribe. They then published the recorded conversations.

I guess what is missing from the article is was the videos misleading or did they really get offered the bribe? Because if its the latter, its kind of hard to feel sympathy for a corrupt official getting caught even if the mechanism was problematic.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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post #22

Am I mistaken but in theory aren't Solvenia and Isreal technically allies ? I'm not naive to believe intelligence agencies don't target each other in many ways, but general voting interference seems quite brazzen. I would love to see an example being made out of them here. That said, bar sanctions, Isreali 'private' companies like this seem to have carte blanch on whatever they want to do. No sanctions, no fines, not…

When it comes to IL most of the EU's countries leadership strategy comes down to getting willingly fucked and getting their population fucked for literally no benefit, just so that elites will not be temporarily called "anti-semitic".

It's nuts. Israel's idea of being an ally is fucking all their allies over, with useless war they can't win but that will erase and reverse within a few weeks all benefit countries like mine (Czechia) ever derived from a bilateral trade with them, just based on increased energy prices alone. (Compared to Slovenia, it's well deserved here, though. Czechs should suffer, to learn.)

This little stuff, like meddling in elections, is nothing, compared to big effects of IL state policy.

Israel doesn't have allies aside from US, they nurture a herd of masochist sycophant states.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

#105

Israel really needs to stop interfering in other countries' elections. That's not acceptable. We don't interfere when their population votes for warcriminals either.

So many countries (Russia is reported to be helping Orban, for example) meddle in other countries' affairs, even when it doesn't affect them at all, directly or indirectly. These days a lot of damage can be done online (propaganda, riling people up, fake news etc) for very little money - how does one even begin to counter this? Especially if you are a small country/poor with limited resources

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

With so many conspiracy theories becoming truth and so much news proving to be lies over time, I now have more trust in something labeled as a conspiracy theory than in official news.

>...I now have more trust in something labeled as a conspiracy theory than in official news. I think that is the goal. Destroy trust in formerly trustworthy sources so that the reality you see every day more closely aligns with one of the many conspiracy options.

Well, that's the conspiracy. Both in theory and practice. People conspire all the time, even those claiming they don't. If something is a conspiracy, doesn't mean it's not true. Or false.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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post #70

Israel under Netanyahu is part of the international antidemocratic axis of imperialist autocracy. Other members, in no particular order: Orban, Trump, Putin, Babis, Thiel, Bolsonaro, Ellison, Milei, Nawrocki. These gentlemen (and of course they're all men) constitute the 21st century axis of evil, responsible for most of the backsliding and worsening of rule of law around the world.

Hey now, there’s a few axis girlbosses out there! Don’t forget Sana’s skin in the game.

Re: Slovenian officials blame Israeli firm Black Cube for trying to manipulate vote

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post #92
post #82

It seems to me that interfering in a foreign election should be understood to be grounds for war.

Yes, and the EU, due to this fragmentation, seems to be a fertile playground for all this unacceptable interference by foreign powers.

Actually, no. The decentralization of power means that it takes a lot more effort to subvert each country individually, rather than propping up a few candidates for the entire region like they do in the US.
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