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Why Google Went Offline Today and a Bit about How the Internet Works

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Re: Why Google Went Offline Today and a Bit about How the Internet Works

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And nothing will change. At least not until someone does this with malicious intent - script kiddie A knocks out big site, or a censoring state decides that it should block a free speech site from the entire Internet.

Script kiddies generally do not have access to edge routers though...

Re: Why Google Went Offline Today and a Bit about How the Internet Works

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post #139
post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Hello, 911? Yeah, I've got an unconscious person here. His face is literally purple." Did I mean literally literally, or figuratively? And how can the previous question have meaning?

You remove the emphasizer and just say: "His face is purple."

And then they say, "literally purple?"

Re: Why Google Went Offline Today and a Bit about How the Internet Works

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post #9

“BGP is literally the glue of the Internet” - I think you’ll find BGP is figuratively the glue of the Internet ;)

'literally' has literally become an overused cliche that does't mean anything and isn't used properly most of the time.

you can almost always take it out of the sentence it is being used in and the sentence is easier to read and makes more sense.

a new pet-hate word for me (nothing on you OP!)

Re: Why Google Went Offline Today and a Bit about How the Internet Works

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post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Context.

"Hello, 911? Yeah, I've got an unconscious person here. His face is literally purple." Did I mean literally literally, or figuratively? And how can the previous question have meaning?

Drop the word, or use one of: actually, truly, really.

Re: Why Google Went Offline Today and a Bit about How the Internet Works

#147

27 minutes, 3-5% traffic, it could means thousand of dollars lost for Google, right? (Does it sueable?)

Under which law are they going to sue? USA laws don't apply to Indians ISPs.

It was an Indonesian ISP, not Indian.

Re: Why Google Went Offline Today and a Bit about How the Internet Works

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post #143
post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You remove the emphasizer and just say: "His face is purple."

And then they say, "literally purple?"

The problem with this argument is that you are hypothesizing a case that, if it were going to be happening, would be happening now, not in the future. Yet it does not. There is no great epidemic of confused 911 operators because they can't make out whether or not someone on the other end used literally "correctly".

While one can speculate on why you might be wrong about this being a problem, an examination of the world around us rather strongly suggests that there's no question that there is something fatally wrong with your argument.

Re: Why Google Went Offline Today and a Bit about How the Internet Works

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post #148
post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then they say, "literally purple?"

The problem with this argument is that you are hypothesizing a case that, if it were going to be happening, would be happening now , not in the future. Yet it does not. There is no great epidemic of confused 911 operators because they can't make out whether or not someone on the other end used literally "correctly". While one can speculate on why you might be wrong about this being a problem, an examination of the wo…

There's no epidemic of any single problem being caused by any imprecision in grammar. But there are lots of little, similar problems -- perhaps in non-emergency situations -- that cause predictable, avoidable confusion because people insist on breaking the use of important words.

If your point is that "we can make it impossible to communicate the concept 'literally' until there's an epidemic of deaths over it", then your threshold is in a very, very wrong place.

Re: Why Google Went Offline Today and a Bit about How the Internet Works

#150

Isn't the title a touch sensationalist? Google did not go "offline": it was briefly unavailable for a relatively small number of networks.

For the people affected, google was for all purposes "offline". If the estimate of 3–5% of the internet population is correct, that's a lot of people.

I think that if 3-5% of the Internet population suddenly stopped querying Google, Google would have noticed before CloudFlare.
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