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Apple Just Lost Me

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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by rurp »

arjie wrote: post #51
daedrdev wrote: post #9

Any system of age verification will fail to satisfy the writer, because it is fundamentally the UK’s fault by requiring such draconian measures. Credit cards don't work ever time, but the other options of using AI or sending your data to a third company who will resell it are also not great. The only other complaint seems to be liquid glass? It really feels strange because Apple feels on the upswing with their new of…

Reading between the lines, the author of the blog post would have gone along with the verification with annoyance if the verification had worked. What seems to have prompted everything is the credit cards failing. The fact that they couldn't use Wallet and then tried manually with all five sort of illustrates that they would have gone along with it. Edge cases like immigrants in a different land are typically unmet f…

I think this is one of the biggest tragedies from big tech companies. Their automated approaches usually work great for most people, but will be hopelessly broken for edge cases, often with no recourse. This happens all the time with non-standard location histories.

It's also amazing how badly big tech apps will often fail with poor or no internet connection. Clearly a lot of the developers at these companies never leave the cities they live and work in.

Other industries can be just as bad, but it's particularly grating coming from companies that constantly talk about diversity, individual empowerment, and other nice sounding corporate slop.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by JCharante »

barrell wrote: post #105
joshgachnang wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My non-techie friends either barely notice Liquid Glass or go "ooo this is nice!". It has annoyed me on occasion, but I barely notice it any more. Much ado about nothing.

My non techie friends all hate it. I don’t think there is a single Apple user I talk to regularly that hasn’t complained about it, or ask me why it is that way (being the resident tech person for some). And besides a few odd posts on x, I haven’t heard anyone techy speak positively about it. Maybe I’m the one in a bubble, but I’m seriously considering switching from Apple as a lifelong Apple user, largely because of…

Like I'm not a fan but the ecosystem is convenient if you can afford it and liquid glass is fine? I haven't heard a single person complain about it IRL It's not a big design that I got hyped for like iOS 6 but it's fine

I have the vision pro, mbp m4, ip15 pro max, apple watch ultra 2, studio display (2026), 2 official keyboards, 2 magic trackpads, ipad (4th gen), 3 homepod 2, 5 homepod mini, airpod pro 3 (I keep buying new airpod pros every time they come out because the improvements are really good).

I'm fine liquid glass and I use their products like.. 20 hours a day?

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by JeremyHerrman »

totally valid to call out apple for issues, but for most folks already accustomed to apple's walled garden, the grass is not greener on the other side

For instance, I've had a ton of issues with Airpods Max so I moved over to the Sony WH-1000XM6, and they do a much worse job sharing connections between multiple devices to the point where I have to reset them constantly to get sound to reliably play from both my phone & computer.

Same for moving to macOS to linux - the issues on add up to the point where the papercuts from macOS are still worth it.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by connorgurney »

soapdog wrote: post #340
afandian wrote: post #327

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you ruling out sending a photo of your driving license? It's absolutely nuts that you have to. But it's an option?

that's the thing, it is not an option. The only option is credit card, that is what drove me nuts. If it had other options, it would still be bad, but I'd have a way to solve it even if made me angry. Now, the only way to solve this is literally to order a credit card from my bank and then use it. Which is bonkers.

It’s definitely an option in the UK, as I’ve just used it, though it’s not particularly prominent.

If you choose the option to verify with a credit card and scroll down the form, there’s an option to verify another way, which allows you to use your driving license.

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Post by Insanity »

samspot wrote: post #373
Insanity wrote: post #347

The third point in this article is what really gets me. The credit card culture in Canada and the US is just insane to me, coming from a European point of view. You can get by without credit cards in Europe, and most of my family only has one for traveling abroad. So sure, they can use their credit card if they really have to, but it’s not a good default, as many others won’t even have credit cards. (And within EU, t…

You can get by just fine in the US without a credit card too. At least if you have a debit card (which can pretend to be a credit card in most situations). We were actually unscored by the credit bureaus for several years when we didn't own a house.

I find that many online payments require CC. And yeah credit score is the other issue.

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Post by musicsnob »

To the Apple users that are completely fed up with Apple: Stop talking us to death. Just switch already. Send us a follow up post in 6-12 months letting us know how it goes for you.

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Post by ciupicri »

an0malous wrote: post #198
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

There's a bizarre trend, especially on HN, of unjustified criticism against Apple. There are so many YC companies committing outright fraud, Palantir is building a surveillance state, a bunch of well known founders and VCs openly promote white supremacist ideology, but you'll never see more vitriol on this forum than someone complaining about the liquid glass UI or app store take rate.

Maybe he doesn't live in the US?

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Post by bsimpson »

mathgradthrow wrote: post #212
frizlab wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They didn't start locking things down until the iPhone. They sure have tried since forever though. My uncle complained about Apple for this very reason ~20y ago…

wasn't that about when the iphone came out?

There was a decade between them.
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