Live data from Hacker News

Thoughts on slowing the fuck down

mariozechner.at

11–20 of 505 posts

Re: Thoughts on slowing the fuck down

#12
post #6

I think the core idea here is a good one. But in many agent-skeptical pieces, I keep seeing this specific sentiment that “agent-written code is not production-ready,” and that just feels… wrong! It’s just completely insane to me to look at the output of Claude code or Codex with frontier models and say “no, nothing that comes out of this can go straight to prod — I need to review every line.” Yes, there are still iss…

Maybe in the future humans won't need to pour over every line. However I quickly learn which interns I can trust and which I need to pour over their code - I don't trust AI because it has been wrong too often. I'm not saying AI is useless - I do most of my coding with an agent, but I don't trust it until I verify every line.

Re: Thoughts on slowing the fuck down

#13
If there is anyone who absolutely should slow down, it's the folks who are actively integrating company data with an agent -- you are literally helping removing as many jobs as possible, from your colleagues, and from yourselves, not in the long term, but in the short term.

Integration is the key to the agents. Individual usages don't help AI much because it is confined within the domain of that individual.

Re: Thoughts on slowing the fuck down

#15

I suppose everyone on HN reaches a certain point with these kind of thought pieces and I just reached mine. What are you building? Does the tool help or hurt? People answered this wrong in the Ruby era, they answered it wrong in the PHP era, they answered it wrong in the Lotus Notes and Visual BASIC era. After five or six cycles it does become a bit fatiguing. Use the tool sanely. Work at a pace where your understand…

> People answered this wrong in the Ruby era, they answered it wrong in the PHP era

Aren't you conveniently ignoring the fact that there were people saw through that and didn't go down those routes?

Re: Thoughts on slowing the fuck down

#16
> You installed Beads, completely oblivious to the fact that it's basically uninstallable malware.

Did I miss something? I haven't used it in a minute, but why is the author claiming that it's "uninstallable malware"?

Re: Thoughts on slowing the fuck down

#17

If there is anyone who absolutely should slow down, it's the folks who are actively integrating company data with an agent -- you are literally helping removing as many jobs as possible, from your colleagues, and from yourselves, not in the long term, but in the short term. Integration is the key to the agents. Individual usages don't help AI much because it is confined within the domain of that individual.

> you are literally helping removing as many jobs as possible, from your colleagues, and from yourselves, not in the long term, but in the short term

Pull the bandaid off quickly, it hurts less.

Re: Thoughts on slowing the fuck down

#18

If there is anyone who absolutely should slow down, it's the folks who are actively integrating company data with an agent -- you are literally helping removing as many jobs as possible, from your colleagues, and from yourselves, not in the long term, but in the short term. Integration is the key to the agents. Individual usages don't help AI much because it is confined within the domain of that individual.

> If there is anyone who absolutely should slow down, it's the folks who are actively integrating company data with an agent -- you are literally helping removing as many jobs as possible, from your colleagues, and from yourselves, not in the long term, but in the short term.

I'm one of those people and I'm not going to slow down. I want to move on from bullshit jobs.

The only people that fear what is coming are those that lack imagination and think we are going to run out of things to do, or run out of problems to create and solve.

Re: Thoughts on slowing the fuck down

#19

Eh I think its self-correcting problem Companies will face the maintenance and availability consequences of these tools but it may take a while for the feedback loop to close

Unfortunately, I think the lesson from recent history seems to be that outside of highly-regulated industries, customers and businesses will accept terrible quality as long as it's cheap.

True but there is a limit, there are still levels of quality

Re: Thoughts on slowing the fuck down

#20
post #6

I think the core idea here is a good one. But in many agent-skeptical pieces, I keep seeing this specific sentiment that “agent-written code is not production-ready,” and that just feels… wrong! It’s just completely insane to me to look at the output of Claude code or Codex with frontier models and say “no, nothing that comes out of this can go straight to prod — I need to review every line.” Yes, there are still iss…

We live in a world where every line of code written by a human should be reviewed by another human. We can't even do that! Nothing should go straight to prod ever, ever ever, ever.
Post reply on HN