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Apple Just Lost Me

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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Swizec wrote: post #181
giancarlostoro wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> even the account age is above the age limit, what's hard to figure out here? I have a gmail thats old enough to drink anywhere in the world, and never used it for youtube, accidentally opened youtube, they asked me for my age. At some point, I think its okay to just use account age instead of even asking.

> At some point, I think its okay to just use account age instead of even asking Bet you there’s already a thriving grey market for old accounts with organic history.

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raincole wrote: post #47

> Credit cards are not documents. Many people don’t have them. Apple don’t provide any other way to verify your age because they are a stupid American company with American values in which you’re just as human as your credit score. UK passed age verification law and people still find a way to blame the US.

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hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

The author is complaining about the fact that there are a myriad of issues with Apple's ecosystem that have built up a level of frustration with their ecosystem where they can no longer tolerate it.

I find it infuriating I have to verify that I am older than 18 when my gmail account is 20+ years old.

Him moving to Android will do them no good as Google will be implementing similar controls in it. I suggest they get a Pixel Phone and install Graphene OS.

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Post by jmye »

an0malous wrote: post #198
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

There's a bizarre trend, especially on HN, of unjustified criticism against Apple. There are so many YC companies committing outright fraud, Palantir is building a surveillance state, a bunch of well known founders and VCs openly promote white supremacist ideology, but you'll never see more vitriol on this forum than someone complaining about the liquid glass UI or app store take rate.

Internet memes and terminal Holy Wars take nearly zero thought, effort or intelligence to post about. Just emotion and hot takes, and you're almost guaranteed a response.

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Post by lern_too_spel »

an0malous wrote: post #198
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

There's a bizarre trend, especially on HN, of unjustified criticism against Apple. There are so many YC companies committing outright fraud, Palantir is building a surveillance state, a bunch of well known founders and VCs openly promote white supremacist ideology, but you'll never see more vitriol on this forum than someone complaining about the liquid glass UI or app store take rate.

Our choice of phone isn't between Apple and Palantir but between Apple and Android. The criticism comes from the fact that the other option is better.

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Post by sgt »

If he's pissed at this, imagine how pissed he'll become when he enters the ridiculous Android ecosystem.

Anyway, he's free to choose whatever, but I have to nitpick here:

1. macOS 26 - a fiasco? Come on. A lot of like the liquid glass. On macOS I hardly notice it, but on iOS is actually beautiful to me. Also a long time macOS user, since 2003 btw. You can always dampen it using accessibility settings.

2. Age verification ? First time I've heard of it. Also on latest iOS. But then I'm also not in the UK.

3. "Interfaces built with AppKit or SwiftUI that rendered perfect, are now overlapping controls and clipping stuff. They have no consistency at all in terms of icons, placement, corners…". I'm all for constructive criticism. But where are you seeing this? I've got 8-9 apps open and none are inconsistent in my view. I'm picky about these things too. Genuinely I'd like to know.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by danslo »

Retr0id wrote: post #213
chuckadams wrote: post #194

What keeps me in the Appleverse is the hardware, and the software that Just Works with the hardware (I find that "Just Works" has been rapidly eroding in general, but naturally it still handles the hardware well). The alternatives are Linux on much worse hardware, or the non-starter that is Windows on anything whatsoever. I'm told ThinkPads are getting to parity and have primo Linux support, but barring accident, my…

Linux runs well on M2 (and hopefully also M3 in the future)

If you're OK with it draining 3% battery per hour when you close the lid, sure.

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Post by iSnow »

embedding-shape wrote: post #134
frizlab wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They didn't start locking things down until the iPhone. They sure have tried since forever though. My uncle complained about Apple for this very reason ~20y ago…

Before the iPhone, what was their attempts at that? I remember using OSX a bunch before the iPhone was public, but never remember any of the ways they tried to lock it down, I might have been too young then.

Their previous lock-downs were on the hardware level, not offering ISA slots and stuff. The original Mac (then Mac+ and classic) had no expansion slots at all, and they started adding them only later.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by subscribed »

an0malous wrote: post #198
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

There's a bizarre trend, especially on HN, of unjustified criticism against Apple. There are so many YC companies committing outright fraud, Palantir is building a surveillance state, a bunch of well known founders and VCs openly promote white supremacist ideology, but you'll never see more vitriol on this forum than someone complaining about the liquid glass UI or app store take rate.

Several things can be wrong at the same time.
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