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How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

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Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

#41
The usual fare: log out, disable biometrics, use long pins and passwords, power off. Prefer a burner device, or clean your device and restore when you arrive.

I remember how Google's internal guidelines for travel circa 2011 required to remove any material under NDA from your laptop when traveling to China or Russia; you had to restore it over the VPN after a safe arrival. Funny that now the same precautions apply to the US :((

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

#42

Burner phones for all! Defund, disband, destroy DHS, ICE, CBP, TSA.

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You must be young. Many of us who are middle-aged or older clearly remember what the US was like before it created the present security apparatus, and "total collapse of the social safety net" is quite the opposite of what I would expect if we rolled it back.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could use the billions we waste on this repressive jackboot-theater for an actual safety net instead? We could live in a less brutal society.

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

#43

For Linux users, you could try disabling the desktop environment when going through the airport (or using termux-launcher on your phone). It'd be fun to see how they'd handle a CLI. Might result in getting detained, though.

insert "wrench" xkcd here

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

#44

Don't carry them with you. I'm old and I can tell you from experience... you can live life without holding a cellphone all the time. It's not as hard as you think.

Maybe the world needs a virtual phone in the cloud which you access with a browser from a dumb device.

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Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

#45
post #21

Don't carry them with you. I'm old and I can tell you from experience... you can live life without holding a cellphone all the time. It's not as hard as you think.

Or, if you want to have one with you, leave your regular cell phone at home (or ship it ahead to your destination via parcel carrier) and carry a burner/travel-only phone instead. Don't put any personal data on that phone. Not even contact numbers. Carry those in printed form separately.

We really need some straightforward way to carry a mostly-wiped phone, and then download an app, input credentials [0] (stored in your head), and have everything [1] downloaded from a cloud server and ready to go.

[0] since I'm spelling this out, one of those credentials should be a passphrase such that the server doesn't have access to your data

[1] modulo data/apps you actually want on a phone in a foreign country, of course

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

#46

Don't carry them with you. I'm old and I can tell you from experience... you can live life without holding a cellphone all the time. It's not as hard as you think.

> It's not as hard as you think.

International travel is infinitely more difficult without a cell phone.

When I was younger and international roaming was expensive I travelled internationally without a phone. It’s possible, but it’s so much easier to do it with a phone. Later when I finally stopped being a cheap student and bought a data plan my trips were so much more efficient because I wasn’t losing so much time trying to figure everything out without a phone.

For international business trips, devices are mandatory. This isn’t even an option.

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ... I'm old ... you can live life without holding a cellphone all the time. It's not as hard as you think. I'm in my 50s and I don't know where this stance comes from. Sure, you physically can in the same sense that anywhere can be walked to if you're willing to walk long enough. But so many businesses and services have gone "mobile-first" or "mobile-only" to the point that if you're traveling for leisure you're do…

I don’t have a phone Sure it’s inconvenient sometimes, but on the whole I’d say my life is better than those I see glued to their phones. This belief is reinforced whenever people ask for my number (dentist, doctor, whatever) The gusto which they invariably reply “OMG I WISH I could get rid of my phone!”

Because only those two extremes exist: you either don't have a phone, or your are glued to it?

Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ... I'm old ... you can live life without holding a cellphone all the time. It's not as hard as you think. I'm in my 50s and I don't know where this stance comes from. Sure, you physically can in the same sense that anywhere can be walked to if you're willing to walk long enough. But so many businesses and services have gone "mobile-first" or "mobile-only" to the point that if you're traveling for leisure you're do…

I don’t have a phone Sure it’s inconvenient sometimes, but on the whole I’d say my life is better than those I see glued to their phones. This belief is reinforced whenever people ask for my number (dentist, doctor, whatever) The gusto which they invariably reply “OMG I WISH I could get rid of my phone!”

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Re: How to Keep ICE Agents Out of Your Devices at Airports

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ... I'm old ... you can live life without holding a cellphone all the time. It's not as hard as you think. I'm in my 50s and I don't know where this stance comes from. Sure, you physically can in the same sense that anywhere can be walked to if you're willing to walk long enough. But so many businesses and services have gone "mobile-first" or "mobile-only" to the point that if you're traveling for leisure you're do…

I don’t have a phone Sure it’s inconvenient sometimes, but on the whole I’d say my life is better than those I see glued to their phones. This belief is reinforced whenever people ask for my number (dentist, doctor, whatever) The gusto which they invariably reply “OMG I WISH I could get rid of my phone!”

What kind of phone does your grownup have?
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