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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by g947o »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #68

Any age verification should come with an OAUTH style government run API. The idea being you verify your ID with the government, and the service that required age verification gets back a true or false for does this user meet this age requirement. That way the amount of data shared is kept to a minimum. The UK, and Brazil who passed a similar law, 'cheated' by just forcing private companies to figure it out.

Now your government knows you are a registered user of PornHub.

It will be fun when (not if) the database is leaked.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by boysenberry »

hellweaver666 wrote: post #54
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

When I got the prompt it just said "your account age is old enough to prove your age" and didn't ask for any further info.

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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by apparent »

I find Apple's refusal to patch iOS18 (other than for very old devices that do not support 26) to be more objectionable. I have a 13 mini and everything I've read says not to upgrade to 26. Yet Apple won't issue patches for known security issues that are actively being exploited in the wild? That's crazy.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by cyanydeez »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

I guess it's written for people who never had to Apple, cause it just repeated reasons I'd never touch those products.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by outime »

lynndotpy wrote: post #170
techterrier wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard this every UI update for the past 20 years.

That's why I emphasized this is different. Apple fans bemoaned the Settings menu changing from a grid to a list, or the battery getting a skeumorphic icon, but that doesn't really matter. The Liquid Glass stuff was forced on users in ways their other OS updates weren't, and it has caused serious performance, stability, and usability problems throughout the entire OS.

I'm happy with it. My non-techie partner is happy (or more like "I don't care") with it. All my non-techie friends and family don't give a flying f*. I just think this site has recurrent issues with all redesigns and no, this time is no different.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by dgxyz »

ta9000 wrote: post #143
dgxyz wrote: post #7

We just got fucked by this today. My 22 year old daughter doesn't have a driving license or a credit card but does have a passport and it didn't work. She's now got a kids phone. I haven't tried the 20 year old yet who is in the same situation... They have 5 days to unfuck this or I'm literally rolling out Pixels + Graphene to the family. Exit plan for the Mac is a Linux desktop.

This seems like a rational approach as opposed to say, calling Apple support.

I'm monitoring other discussions about this elsewhere. Apple support cannot help at the moment. They are "aware of the issue".

Sorry but I don't want there to be an issue full stop.

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Post by jaccola »

greentea23 wrote: post #207
joering2 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 3. Apple had a bug in their age verification protocol. Again, valid point, but Apple needs to follow UK law. No they don't. They need to grow balls. They pay hefty tax rates in UK. If they would announce they are leaving UK market in 90 days, I bet you would find enough politicians to change the course of this terrible law.

I'm not aware of any law or even terms of service that prevents Apple from saying "we don't like your politics, your iPhone has been disabled, account suspended, all iCloud data deleted." I don't think they would suffer any reputation damage either at this point.

You don't think Apple would suffer any reputational damage if they deleted millions of peoples cherished memories and important work notes/emails?

Also there would be many lawsuits arising from this.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by catapart »

pfraze wrote: post #235
catapart wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ah, yeah; I guess organization looks like complete capitulation and then commenting on the effect elsewhere with a sturdy shrug "whatcha gonna do? we're all just so powerless" . fighting the good fight.

I’ve never felt so motivated to fight on your behalf

ah, cool! great to have such a loyal ally that snark and cynicism wilts their enthusiasm to such an extent. how would we ever get rid of age verification laws without your "dropped at the first sign of someone not being nice to me" supportive commentary and shrugs?

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by drnick1 »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #68

Any age verification should come with an OAUTH style government run API. The idea being you verify your ID with the government, and the service that required age verification gets back a true or false for does this user meet this age requirement. That way the amount of data shared is kept to a minimum. The UK, and Brazil who passed a similar law, 'cheated' by just forcing private companies to figure it out.

Wrong, because then that government knows exactly what services you have accessed. It's a huge and extremely dangerous privacy violation. The real solution to the age verification problem is not to have one. The Internet has existed for over 30 years without it; it's solution to a problem that does not exist.
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