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Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #68

Any age verification should come with an OAUTH style government run API. The idea being you verify your ID with the government, and the service that required age verification gets back a true or false for does this user meet this age requirement. That way the amount of data shared is kept to a minimum. The UK, and Brazil who passed a similar law, 'cheated' by just forcing private companies to figure it out.

Fuck that. California's way is the absolute maximum that should be done: When accounts get created on an operating system, allow the user to provide a completely unproven age. Then that age should be the only age check.

If the goal really is to just help parents prevent their kids from accessing inappropriate material, that's plenty. Anything else, and you're admitting the real goal is Big Brother style surveillance.

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Post by Rohansi »

chasil wrote: post #93

I bought a cheap, used iPhone SE3 because I needed to Facetime relatives. I learned quickly that "Find My" was far superior in remote tracking of airtag-equivalents, and switched some of my convertible tags to their network. I flew out of O'Hare last month, and there were advertisements all over the airport announcing that Illinois id/drivers license import into Apple Wallet, so I did it, and that works. Supposedly,…

> I would never, ever trust Google with any of these things. Ever.

Why do you trust Apple with them? What guarantees Apple will not do evil?

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by froggertoaster »

I'm asking genuinely, how is this top of HN? The comments seem to indicate that HN overall doesn't find this article to be valuable at its face.

Seems to happen a lot with "ragequitting" posts. I feel like I could write "Microsoft Just Lost Me" and it could get to the top.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by chuckadams »

cheschire wrote: post #192

For anyone that is bothered by the glass effect… -Accessibility options -Display & Text Size -Turn on “Reduce Transparency” I forgot glass was even a thing as I immediately turned it on day one.

It makes it less distracting, but doesn't fix the broken layouts.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by drcongo »

frizlab wrote: post #121
bsimpson wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you Author started at System 8. They didn't start locking things down until the iPhone.

> They didn't start locking things down until the iPhone. They sure have tried since forever though. My uncle complained about Apple for this very reason ~20y ago…

My uncle shouts at cats and thinks the CIA have an implant in his fillings, but I'm not claiming that as proof on HN.

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Post by nine_k »

dmantis wrote: post #179
causal wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I kind of prefer Credit Card over anything else if I have to do it. I give out my CC pretty regularly already so not much new PII to lose there. But it does sound like Apple has bugs to work out.

Yes. The point in the post is that it's very American to assume that every adult has a credit card. I'm in my thirties and I never had nor plan to have a credit card. I always have had only debit cards. In countries I've been raised and lived it's a sign of a poverty and total dependency on the bank with additional tax on your living, not an everyday tool like Americans perceive it. Debit cards can be given to an und…

For many, obtaining a credit card just for the purposes of age verification, and not using it for shopping, feels easier than giving away their legal identifying information to a random third party.

In the US you're usually inundated with offers to open a credit card (often pre-approved) right in your mailbox. Even if you're a poor recent immigrant, or something.

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Post by greentea23 »

joering2 wrote: post #50
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #15

I found this to be a very odd and strange rant. The author's three issues with Apple are: 1. Gatekeeping. OK, fine, but at the very least this has been Apple's stance for a very long time now (the author talks about faxing credit card details), so it's not like it's something new. If you wanted full unfettered installation rights, Apple was never the company for you. And while I think it's fine to argue against Apple…

> 3. Apple had a bug in their age verification protocol. Again, valid point, but Apple needs to follow UK law. No they don't. They need to grow balls. They pay hefty tax rates in UK. If they would announce they are leaving UK market in 90 days, I bet you would find enough politicians to change the course of this terrible law.

I'm not aware of any law or even terms of service that prevents Apple from saying "we don't like your politics, your iPhone has been disabled, account suspended, all iCloud data deleted." I don't think they would suffer any reputation damage either at this point.

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Post by debo_ »

raincole wrote: post #47

> Credit cards are not documents. Many people don’t have them. Apple don’t provide any other way to verify your age because they are a stupid American company with American values in which you’re just as human as your credit score. UK passed age verification law and people still find a way to blame the US.

You conveniently left this part out:

> First it attempted to check my Apple Wallet, it failed even though I have five cards in it and am able to use the App Store fine.

> Then it moved onto wanting me to manually add a card to verify myself. It failed with all my five cards. Four were debit cards, and one was a credit card from another country, cause you know I am an immigrant who has accounts still in my own original birth place.

Re: Apple Just Lost Me

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Post by bloggie »

I didn't know what a MNT Pocket Reform and wow! Rockchip, 20 cm wide keyboard, ix ethernet connector, 4 hour advertised runtime, 2 inches thick and costs more than a macbook. You really have to suffer to stick it to the man!
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