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Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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we should be removing the harmful aspects of modern social, which are harmful for everyone not just minors, by making them unprofitable or even outright illegal. Instead we are saying "only adults should use this" which, while technically regulating the industry, places the restriction on users. We're treating it like tobacco or alcohol (2 industries who have similarly spent millions upon millions of dollars in lobby…

OK, so what would be in the text of this law making it enforceable and not easily game-able by the social media companies and without severe unintended consequences?

Why are you asking lawmaker questions of people on HN? What kind of answer are you expecting?

Just because I don't know how to write a law that can prevent it doesn't mean that I can't recognize an actual issue when I see it.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Tech bros deliberately made digital crack for kids and corporations refuse to moderate online content. There is no conspiracy the general public is faced with a crisis and they are desperate for a solution. The teen suicide statistics do not lie.

> The teen suicide statistics do not lie. Teen suicide rates in the US are lower now than they were in the 1990s.

This doesn’t paint the entire picture. Suicide rates peaked in 1990 and then declined to its lowest point in 2007 from there the rates started rising again.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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As a Millennial, I'm sad to say that it wasn't even older generations' fault, but our own (+Gen X). The tipping point was letting in normies who traded in photos and money instead of text and art.

Elitism and selectivity were actually features of the early Internet. High barriers to entry (tech savvy, literacy) ensured that there was a high signal to noise ratio, and thus you had, let's say, upper quartile participants concentrated in one (forum of) fora. LLMs are now heralding the Eternal September of even software engineering, and now I am wondering where to hang up my Techpriest robes in search of more elit…

> I wonder if this is how the clergy felt once the vulgar were...

You meant the "vulgus". "Vulgar" has the same root, but a very different meaning.

This random thought is kinda disconnected from actual human history. "Not allowed to study Scripture" was not a thing: Illiteracy was. There were people that knew how to read and people who didn't, that's it.

I'm trying hard (and failing) to visualize your mental image.

"Dear Father: it looks like the Bible has been translated to English by my dear brothers up at the monastery. I'm sure you understand why I can no longer be a priest"

Remember that you're living in the actual earth timeline, not the 40k one.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Exactly. It started out as something good: see what friends and family are up to. But now: scroll infinite algorithmically placed or sponsored rage bait trying to trigger you into behaving the way that advances certain corporate or foreign interests at the expense of whatever was left of our already tattered social fabric and our collective mental or literal health.

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Your own source [2] says:

> But to be clear, there is no evidence DARPA or the U.S. intelligence services had any role in the creation of Facebook.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

#276

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As a Millennial, I'm sad to say that it wasn't even older generations' fault, but our own (+Gen X). The tipping point was letting in normies who traded in photos and money instead of text and art.

Elitism and selectivity were actually features of the early Internet. High barriers to entry (tech savvy, literacy) ensured that there was a high signal to noise ratio, and thus you had, let's say, upper quartile participants concentrated in one (forum of) fora. LLMs are now heralding the Eternal September of even software engineering, and now I am wondering where to hang up my Techpriest robes in search of more elit…

> I am wondering where to hang up my Techpriest robes in search of more elite pastures.

Capital and tech improvement will beat anyone chasing that.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Your own source [2] says: > But to be clear, there is no evidence DARPA or the U.S. intelligence services had any role in the creation of Facebook.

Do you require everything you read to spell out everything for you point blank? Are you unable to connect dots?

The DARPA lifelog project ended the day Facebook was announced by a college dropout no one had ever heard of before. Facebook just happened to have the exact same goals / features as the lifelog project. Must just be a giant coincidence huh?

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Your own source [2] says: > But to be clear, there is no evidence DARPA or the U.S. intelligence services had any role in the creation of Facebook.

Do you require everything you read to spell out everything for you point blank? Are you unable to connect dots? The DARPA lifelog project ended the day Facebook was announced by a college dropout no one had ever heard of before. Facebook just happened to have the exact same goals / features as the lifelog project. Must just be a giant coincidence huh?

I require at least some evidence.

Your own source says there is none.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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Do you require everything you read to spell out everything for you point blank? Are you unable to connect dots? The DARPA lifelog project ended the day Facebook was announced by a college dropout no one had ever heard of before. Facebook just happened to have the exact same goals / features as the lifelog project. Must just be a giant coincidence huh?

I require at least some evidence. Your own source says there is none.

I think they’re trolling you, see their username.

Re: Jury finds Meta liable in case over child sexual exploitation on its platforms

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>to push the age verification requirement off to the app store providers, and makes more sense, Apple and Google have your credit card , or if you are a parent that bought soem phone for you child then at first boot up as a parent should be your job to setup a child account.

> Apple and Google have your credit card They don't have mine. Even if they did, having a credit card is not proof of age. > if you are a parent that bought soem phone for you child then at first boot up as a parent should be your job to setup a child account Setting up a "child account" shouldn't involve setting some age field. Setting up a "child account" should involve restricting permissions. Why leave it to the…

This shit already happened years ago with consoles, i setup a choild account and the games were restrcited and other features also.

I am not paid by a trilion dollar company to decide if it should be a birthday input, or a dropdown where you select your political and religious conviction about what your child should see. Sony figured it out, if Apple pays me I will spend more time to write for them a UX flow so average people could sert the accpunts up and the rest could ask their priest, cousins or other person that can follow instructions to setup the account for them.

The giants shoudl have solved this decades ago and not wait for the fanatic religious to push for this as laws and get the goverments involved, now you will get 25 different laws about this.

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