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Re: Goodbye to Sora

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> XAI Kind of insulting to lump google in with XAI? Like, is anyone even using XAI other than backwater government agencies?

> Like, is anyone even using XAI other than backwater government agencies? xAI doesn't have "content moderation" around adult content, so that usage is quite popular.

That is a lot of people ending up on a list... Gross.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Most of this “AI” stuff is dead on arrival. Most People do not care about the technology and frankly they don’t want to know about it. They want great experiences. That’s it. Technologists seem to have a reallyyyy hard time getting it.

This is what I see, outside the HN bubble. If you work retail or weld pipes together or whatever, AI is of no use to you. On the contrary, if tech thought leaders are to be believed, you'll be out of a job soon, replaced by a lifeless robot. Fuck that.

You do realize that there a lot of people who sit at a desk and use a computer all day, right? Those are the ones whose jobs are vulnerable, not the ones who work with their hands or interact with the public.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Sometimes I think my opinion means nothing on these topics, especially when it's going to get buried in a thread of 500 plus comments. But I think you finally see a little bit of a flaw in the strategy or just a little bit of insight into what was desperation for relevance and to try to very quickly attain what other companies have attained but essentially what they're seeing is this gradual reduction in ambition and…

> where you can make money and have a really profitable business I am not convinced. Nobody is making money, every player is losing money hand over fist.

With coding (it's not really coding per se that matters imo it's more like dynamic logic writ large) it's a land grab strategy. They want to get established as the de facto standard and get a whole bunch of people on their platform so by the time they need to "get profitable" they have a captive audience, a leg-up on other labs. It's a tale as old as time, that's why ubers used to be cheaper than cost.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Conspiratorial thought - did OpenAI shut down Sora because one of their models started attaching it's weights to all the output videos, and some how escaped the farm? Not an original thought, "If Anyone Builds it, Everyone Dies" authors proposed this is an option for an AI to escape the sandbox. lol. Imagine.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Wow. OpenAI is the weirdest company in the planet. I used to think they were pretty clever but with this news and other recent ones (Jony Ive project cancelled, Stargate scaled down significantly, their models inflating token use on purpose) they just seem schizo.

They are just cancelling side projects because Anthropic is dominating in enterprise and side projects (probably) don't make profit. https://x.com/ShanuMathew93/status/2031074311629353299

I would point out Anthropic isn't profitable either (yet), it's just that enterprise is where the money is. Now that all the AI companies are narrowing in on that market, becoming profitable will be even more challenging.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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> where you can make money and have a really profitable business I am not convinced. Nobody is making money, every player is losing money hand over fist.

Yes They are just pivoting to stuff that loses money more slowly but maybe has a path to profits eventually…

Some of these AI companies that promised AGI are going to find out that they're actually IDE plugin subscription companies

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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Man I find the HN crowd so cross and fickle sometimes. I think it’s just because when companies get bad rep it affects how people view the products? Im autistic and tend to focus on the tech SORA ( whatever that means) was one of the most astounding demos I’ve probably ever seen ( ChatGPT was more gradual ). The shock and awe of rendered AI video blew my mind. Yes months later everyone can do it and is bored by it an…

Sora was a bit like seeing a new weapon being demoed. No matter how much engineering went in to it. The overwhelming feeling was “this is bad for society and the consequences will be massive.” So far that’s been exactly it. Now AI generated videos are primarily used to scam, deceive, and ragebait.

exactly! while there may be some neutral to slightly positive use of this tech (haha funny video) I can only really see the evil uses of it: scams, misinformation, propaganda, easily available to create by anyone at massive scale.

I really don't see the argument for this tech to be any kind of good, unless you think moving into an era where you cannot trust any image or video is somehow a neutral outcome, AND are happy about the people who are in control of this tech. which I guess captures a larger part of the HN crowd than I'd hoped

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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> gets the point across If people don't read because the text is an unreadable mess, none of the points get across.

tbh I quite like the style, I get the train of thought and am sure it wasn't written by an LLM.

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Re: Goodbye to Sora

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> Also, seeing genuine original creations created with AI assistance is much more interesting to me The great disappointment about how all of this is marketed is what AI should be good at doing - enhancing a tiny budget - is all but forgotten. I don't want a video of Pikachu fighting Doctor Strange, I want some weirdos fantastical horror movie that he could never get financed, but was able to green screen and use AI…

> I want musicians to use AI to generate new sounds as part of composition. As a onetime semi-pro musician, with decades of live performance and sound design experience: I would rather burn my beloved instruments publicly and pee on the fire.

It depends how it is used. If it is an assist which generates sounds/samples that a musician can edit themselves, that seems fine. But spewing out a final form track from a prompt would just be slop.

Integrating AI with existing tools to improve productivity is harder and requires effort and investment...

Re: Goodbye to Sora

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post #414

Man I find the HN crowd so cross and fickle sometimes. I think it’s just because when companies get bad rep it affects how people view the products? Im autistic and tend to focus on the tech SORA ( whatever that means) was one of the most astounding demos I’ve probably ever seen ( ChatGPT was more gradual ). The shock and awe of rendered AI video blew my mind. Yes months later everyone can do it and is bored by it an…

all ai video will be remembered as horrific and a showcase that its creators have no ethical foresight

"The [AI researchers] have known sin, and this is a knowledge which they cannot lose."[0]

which is what I would hope would happen, but they're probably fine not thinking about the consequences of their actions looking at their 7 figure salaries

[0]: https://www.azquotes.com/quote/834918

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