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VitruvianOS – Desktop Linux Inspired by the BeOS

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Re: VitruvianOS – Desktop Linux Inspired by the BeOS

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Post by worthless-trash »

ofrzeta wrote: post #15

"Real-time patched Linux kernel for low-latency desktop use" - does this really make sense? I think there have been various efforts like this over the decades but as far as I remember none of them really made a huge difference for the end user.

IIRC the realtime patchset that RHEL maintained in its own branch/tree was upstreamed last year.

I don't think it makes sense for desktop applications, it may make sense if sound latency is a priority but even then stock kernel delivered lower latency in many cases.

Re: VitruvianOS – Desktop Linux Inspired by the BeOS

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Post by pjmlp »

nico wrote: post #16

BeOS was such an amazing experience back in the day. It really felt magical. Too bad it got shutdown. I wonder what the evolution of it would be like today

For me it felt like it was going to be my next Amiga, in kind of experience, something that GNU/Linux never did it to me, where CLI reigns and multimedia was always looked down upon, Windows and Mac OS weren't quite there as well.

Another cool one that was around was QNX.

Re: VitruvianOS – Desktop Linux Inspired by the BeOS

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Post by pjmlp »

jonhohle wrote: post #23
unixhero wrote: post #22

Why should users not instead go for Haiku

It’s Linux, with all of the support that provides. Not a knock on Haiku, but if I can have a BeOS window manager and Tracker, while running modern Linux binaries natively, I’d be a happy.

You mean Electron apps.

Re: VitruvianOS – Desktop Linux Inspired by the BeOS

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Post by ab5tract »

setopt wrote: post #30
nico wrote: post #16

BeOS was such an amazing experience back in the day. It really felt magical. Too bad it got shutdown. I wonder what the evolution of it would be like today

If I recall directly, Apple was between buying BeOS and NeXT. Would be interesting what would have happened if they went the Be route instead of the Unix route. (But given that MacOS and BeOS were both fringe at the time, perhaps they would just have gone bankrupt…)

Considering that Steve Jobs came with NeXT, the general consensus has been that their recovery would not have been nearly as significant.

The real what-if for me is pondering what might have been had HP and other vendors not caved to the Wintel cartel in abandoning their plans to include BeOS as a preinstalled OEM option. Microsoft was sued by Be in civil court and Be won their case, but it was too little too late.

Re: VitruvianOS – Desktop Linux Inspired by the BeOS

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Post by gjvc »

lobf wrote: post #40
clayhacks wrote: post #38

Ok maybe I’m too young, but what is BeOS? Everyone here is linking other alternatives, but no one’s linked to the original BeOS. Or is it gone now?

I don't understand this type of helplessness when you're already competent enough to use HN... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeOS

stick around...

Re: VitruvianOS – Desktop Linux Inspired by the BeOS

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Post by panick21_ »

setopt wrote: post #30
nico wrote: post #16

BeOS was such an amazing experience back in the day. It really felt magical. Too bad it got shutdown. I wonder what the evolution of it would be like today

If I recall directly, Apple was between buying BeOS and NeXT. Would be interesting what would have happened if they went the Be route instead of the Unix route. (But given that MacOS and BeOS were both fringe at the time, perhaps they would just have gone bankrupt…)

I think at the time everybody agree that BeOS would need a whole lot more work put into it compared to NeXT. That said it still took a huge amount of work to evolve NeXT to OSX.

So I can well imagine Apple fucking this up and getting aquired.

Re: VitruvianOS – Desktop Linux Inspired by the BeOS

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

nico wrote: post #16

BeOS was such an amazing experience back in the day. It really felt magical. Too bad it got shutdown. I wonder what the evolution of it would be like today

You can pretty much just use Haiku as a daily driver these days, if your demands aren't too great. It runs really well on older hardware too.

And of course you can just spin it up in a VM if you only want to play a bit.

Re: VitruvianOS – Desktop Linux Inspired by the BeOS

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Post by ErroneousBosh »

Gabrys1 wrote: post #32
tadfisher wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it can't run X or Wayland apps, so I wouldn't call it an alternative to those. An alternative to Haiku maybe.

why no X11?

Because everyone's going for Wayland, even though you still need XWayland to do anything useful on it because Wayland is comically incomplete.
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