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Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Right off the bat your response raises questions because if the US leadership knew from day one this was a protracted fight then they stand having made entirely contradictory statements regarding their intent and expectations in that regard.

Lying is second nature to them.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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> And I do want to stress that. There is a frequent mistake, often from folks who deal in economics, to assume that countries will give up on wars when the economics turn bad. But countries are often very willing to throw good money after bad even on distant wars of choice. On the other hand isn't this how the russian revolution happened? An economic crisis due to a prolonged war leading to a revolution? While i woul…

Are we talking about Iran or US?

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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The amazing part to me is just the perceived invincibility this small circle within the US administration has. You can find dozens of articles with a search limited to Feb 1~Feb 27, plenty of analysis warning of the risks that have now become reality, everything - the strait, no revolution, further radicalization, critically low US stockpiles, abandoning other US partners, gulf destabilization, etc. In the fantasy im…

Its what happens when you surround yourself with incompetent yes men.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Isn't it interesting that the country that takes the nuclear threat most seriously and tries to prevent it is also the only country that has ever used nuclear weapons?

Russia? France? The UK? India? Pakistan? Israel? China?

There are many countries that have used nuclear weapons.

If you're talking about the USofA they didn't try that hard at preventing Iran from enriching - they tore up a perfectly good and well functioning monitoring agreement at the start of Trump's first term.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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> More relevantly for us, Iran is 3.5 times larger than Iraq and roughly twice the population. Worth noting that at the time of invasion of Iraq they had about 25 million people per gemeni. They now have about 46 mil people per wikipedia. All else equal, we are comparing 25 mil to 93 mil and not half of 93 mil to 93 mil.

Excellent catch.

I also used this as an opportunity to reference the now archived[0] CIA Factbook[1] which does put the 2003 Iraq population at 25 million.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47114530

[1] https://worldfactbookarchive.org/archive/2003/IZ

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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The reason for the Iran war is very simple: Israel’s instigation, a potential strike against China, and Trump’s political immaturity.

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When Trump left the agreement Obama made with Iran all US intelligence agencies agreed that Iran was not working on a bomb. Netanyahu has screeched about Irans destruction for 40 years, he was there to lie to congress about WMDs in Iraq. This conflict is engineered.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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Right off the bat your response raises questions because if the US leadership knew from day one this was a protracted fight then they stand having made entirely contradictory statements regarding their intent and expectations in that regard.

> then they stand having made entirely contradictory statements regarding their intent and expectations in that regard

Time Traveler, rushing to a computer after seeing a Skyrim for Sale poster and seeing this post: "WHAT YEAR IS IT!!!??"

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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He writes that the region is not very important to the USA. It's not, but it is a strategically important area, not only in terms of its location, at the nexus of Asia, Africa and Europe, but also because of the oil there. Now the US is not dependent on Middle Eastern Oil, but Japan, China and other countries are. So controlling the region will mean a lever of power over those regions.

So it’s not about nuclear weapons?

It was never about nuclear weapons, Netanyahu has been saying Iran was one week away for over 30 years. Europe goes along as an excuse to support politically unpopular war to maintain US support for Ukraine.

Re: Miscellanea: The War in Iran

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I stll dont understand what you are doing 10000 miles away from the presumed borders of your country, and even more why on earth you think you have the right to dictate to 90 million people (let aside the rest of the world) how to govetn themselves.

I suppose it is some right given to you from above, now where have I seen this before..

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