Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Goodbye to Sora

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

141–150 of 916 posts

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#141

Post by praisewhitey »

echelon wrote: post #63
ex-aws-dude wrote: post #47

The thing that didn't make sense with this app: who would ever want to scroll only AI generated videos over a combined feed? In practice people would just generate the videos with the app then post them on regular social media in which case OAI would not get the ad revenue for that Its the age-old "your product is just a subset of another product"

> The thing that didn't make sense with this app: who would ever want to scroll only AI generated videos over a combined feed? It was legitimately fun until the IP guardrails came up and we couldn't do anything with the characters and culture we know. If you look at US top videos on YouTube any given day, 40-60% of the videos are IP-based. Star Wars, Nintendo, Marvel, music, etc.

>If you look at US top videos on YouTube any given day, 40-60% of the videos are IP-based. Star Wars, Nintendo, Marvel, music, etc.

Where can I get this data?

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#142

Post by anukin »

ex-aws-dude wrote: post #47

The thing that didn't make sense with this app: who would ever want to scroll only AI generated videos over a combined feed? In practice people would just generate the videos with the app then post them on regular social media in which case OAI would not get the ad revenue for that Its the age-old "your product is just a subset of another product"

Moltbook was recently acquired by meta. I think it’s the same hypothesis for TikTok for ai agents or similar.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#143

Post by yabutlivnWoods »

PLenz wrote: post #45

This was bound to happen. IP is data and data is moat.

No. Money is moat. Not enough of it is what keeps the average person on the treadmill rather than drawing their own cartoons.

Hustle just to barely stay afloat water or drown, means no time to compete with our own output.

America is a financially engineered joke regurgitating its own recent history, collapsing like an LLM trained on its own output. The rich are not even pretending it's "a free country" as they have enough wealth for how many years left most of them have to live, and have seen the apathy to their own plight keeping the average person in theit lane they don't fear the public.

It’ll all collapse as they generationally churn out of life and the Millennials on down with zero skills but "data entry into a computer" will be holding an empty bag, taking orders from foreign nations that bought up all the American businesses we built.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#144

Post by supern0va »

emp17344 wrote: post #94
Permit wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like in several years we’ll have much more capable video generation than Sora was capable of and we won’t look back at all.

I feel like you’re wrong. This is a clear signal that generative video is deeply unpopular.

>This is a clear signal that generative video is deeply unpopular.

Or, it's a clear signal that AI video is too expensive as a consumer product and/or not quite yet at a quality bar that the average person finds acceptable.

I think someone could have looked at computer graphics and SFX circa the '80s and decided that they would always pale in comparison to practical effects. And yet..

It's an annoying trope, but this is the worst and most expensive (at this quality level) that these models will ever be.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#145

Post by lossyalgo »

_doctor_love wrote: post #25

This move makes a lot of sense to me. It never felt like OpenAI was seriously going to try to launch a video-based social network. It was more of a fun way to demonstrate the power of the video generation models, and also to gauge the market and assess: if you put the power to generate videos in the hands of the people, what kinds of videos will they generate? So OpenAI has done the right thing as a startup here, got…

Is OpenAI still considered a startup? They were founded ~10 years ago in December 2015.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#146

Post by al_borland »

bibimsz wrote: post #65
MyFirstSass wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

Software engineers have spent the last 40 years automating away other people's jobs. The discomfort only seems to start when the automation points inward.

I want to make people’s jobs easier and more interesting, I never want to make them redundant.

This did happen once. 3 people were laid off, I think directly based on things I said to drive the completion of some automation. That was the last time I ever measured something in man-hours to make a point. I’ll never do it again. That was over 12 years ago.

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#147

Post by bloppe »

twoodfin wrote: post #84

If I were to get conspiracy-minded: Sora had to be shut down because it was the clearest, most consequential demonstration that OpenAI’s models are running way, way ahead of their ability to align/jail them effectively.

What did Sora do?

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#149

Post by al_borland »

2001zhaozhao wrote: post #54
mcast wrote: post #4

I guess this is a bullish sign OpenAI has hired a lot of PMs from Google!

We need a 'killed by OpenAI' site now

This could be taken two ways.

1. OpenAI killing off their own products aggressively, taking a page from Google’s book. (I think the way you meant it)

2. Products/companies that no longer exist because OpenAI, or AI in general, made them obsolete. (My first instinct when reading it)

Re: Goodbye to Sora

#150

Post by hammock »

MengerSponge wrote: post #128
teekert wrote: post #69

“What you made with Sora mattered”. Idk why that sentence irks me so much. Perhaps because the “how” is bit vague. I like to think that what I made in the toilet this morning also mattered.

I think of the medical definition when people use LLMs to "express" themselves: https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/express

That is the original meaning of the word (cf espresso etc)
Post reply on HN