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Re: Apple Business

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The world's firs trillion dollar and three trillion dollar company. Yes, completely insignificant. The company that captures 60-70% of the global PC industry's profits. Definitely completely insignificant. Apple has known the score internally for decades and is laughing that score all the way to the bank.

None of that refutes anything that was said. macOS is a third-class citizen measured by market share, and the total sum of annual Mac profits is lower than what the iPad ecosystem makes in a year. Consumers do not want the Mac. Datacenters don't want Apple Silicon. People want the iPhone, they want Airpods, but the M-series Macs have spent 5 years changing absolutely nothing.

> Consumers do not want the Mac

Really? As far as I can tell, consumers mostly would love to use Macs, but aren't willing to pay the price of entry

> Datacenters don't want Apple Silicon

Do you know how many people salivate at the prospect of an M-based return of the Xserve?

Re: Apple Business

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Apple's office suite is my favorite I've ever used, and it's not close. After that, old copies of MSOffice. Next-best would be a hodgepodge of the lighter options on Linux and such. Gnumeric, Abiword, that sort of thing. Not great, but at least they're light on resources and easy to use. Distantly after that, LibreOffice. Then, modern MSOffice in last place. The only reason I'd count any of them as "worse" than moder…

> Apple's office suite is my favorite I've ever used, and it's not close. I’ve written many comments criticizing this. Do you use a lot of keyboard shortcuts when you use Numbers or Pages or Keynote or do you use the trackpad/mouse a lot? I generally find these apps and others lacking on the keyboard front, by which I mean that it’s almost impossible to use them without a trackpad or a mouse. I can completely live wi…

Numbers has a lot of keyboard shortcuts [1]. Are there particular ones you're missing? Or is your issue that Numbers has different keyboard shortcuts from the ones you're used to in Excel?

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/numbers/tana45192591/m...

Re: Apple Business

#274
The big news here is the MDM, for free!

It used to be necessary to use a slew of dodgy providers like Jama, with is 2000 website (and why would I trust any small company with all my enterprise data). ABM didn’t provide the MDM part and that was most annoying. It seems normal to integrate account management and MDM, so I’d love to use it.

That ABM is full of bugs, the Apple team incompetent, and D&B being Dumb and Dunber is another question.

Re: Apple Business

#275

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The world's firs trillion dollar and three trillion dollar company. Yes, completely insignificant. The company that captures 60-70% of the global PC industry's profits. Definitely completely insignificant. Apple has known the score internally for decades and is laughing that score all the way to the bank.

None of that refutes anything that was said. macOS is a third-class citizen measured by market share, and the total sum of annual Mac profits is lower than what the iPad ecosystem makes in a year. Consumers do not want the Mac. Datacenters don't want Apple Silicon. People want the iPhone, they want Airpods, but the M-series Macs have spent 5 years changing absolutely nothing.

> but the M-series Macs have spent 5 years changing absolutely nothing.

You clearly keep up with tech news, kudos! I’ve seen no changes from other major pc manufacturers in response to Apple silicon, at all. /s

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> If Apple Business were a real revenue source, if they charged luxury prices for a luxurious business support experience, they could pay for developers to fix their stuff. Apple can already easily afford those developers. They’re not exactly running at a loss ;) Plus given how each new iteration of macOS and iOS is a steady step backwards for usability, I don’t have a huge amount of trust in their abilities to fix B…

The reality is that every business unit needs to justify its existence and when asking for headcount, it’s easier to point to a revenue stream you’re tied to rather than “we help sell some things to businesses”

Are you sure Apple does their accounting in that way?

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there were tons of smartphones on the market prior to the iphone. i used several of them. mostly windows mobile devices that required a stylus or keypad for input. they had apps stores, web browsers, email, etc. copy and paste, which the iphone lacked at release. from a functionality stance there were many options very much like the iphone available. the interface on the iphone was nicer for most things, and it had a…

A world of difference. Completely different products.

Couldn’t agree more. Those amalgam windows mobile devices were an interesting for the time, but hellish experience imho.

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Apple Watch.

There were literally thousands of smart watches that were launched prior to the Apple Watch Garmin anyone? I think Timex and Casio even had ones in the 90s

Which ones of those can do notifications, health tracking, sleep cycle, temperature/blood pressure? I’ll wait.

Re: Apple Business

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> If Apple Business were a real revenue source, if they charged luxury prices for a luxurious business support experience, they could pay for developers to fix their stuff. Apple can already easily afford those developers. They’re not exactly running at a loss ;) Plus given how each new iteration of macOS and iOS is a steady step backwards for usability, I don’t have a huge amount of trust in their abilities to fix B…

The reality is that every business unit needs to justify its existence and when asking for headcount, it’s easier to point to a revenue stream you’re tied to rather than “we help sell some things to businesses”

If that were the case, the only business units that would ever be get funding would be the hardware sales.

Even with AWS I doubt many of the service teams make enough money to justify their existence alone.

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