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Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by 01100011 »

vrganj wrote: post #18

AI is fine . The hype is annoying. What's even worse though are the incredible amounts of money and energy that are being thrown at it, with no regard for the consequences, in times of record inequality and looming climate apocalypse. AI is the red herring that'll waste all our attention until it's too late.

It's a hail mary dash towards AGI. If we get computers to think for us, we can solve a lot of our most pressing issues. If not, well we've accelerated a lot of our worst problems(global warming, big tech, wealth inequality, surveillance state, post-truth culture, etc).

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Post by runarberg »

dvt wrote: post #74
vrganj wrote: post #18

AI is fine . The hype is annoying. What's even worse though are the incredible amounts of money and energy that are being thrown at it, with no regard for the consequences, in times of record inequality and looming climate apocalypse. AI is the red herring that'll waste all our attention until it's too late.

> incredible amounts of ... energy So tired of seeing this trope. Data center energy expenditure is like less than 1% of worldwide energy expenditure[1]. Have you heard of mining? Or agriculture? Or cars/airplanes/ships? It's just factually wrong and alarmist to spread the fake news that AI has any measurable effect on climate change. [1] https://www.iea.org/reports/energy-and-ai/energy-supply-for-...

1% of worldwide energy expenditure is massive, incredible amounts of energy in fact.

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by iugtmkbdfil834 »

chatmasta wrote: post #108
lukev wrote: post #46

This is bad in tech. But at least we are (relatively) well equipped to deal with it. My partner teaches at a small college. These people are absolutely lost , with administration totally sold on the idea that "AI is the future" while lacking any kind of coherent theory about how to apply it to pedagogy. Administrators are typically uncritically buying into the hype, professors are a mix of compliant and (understandab…

The wild part is they’re having this reaction while using the most rigid and limited interfaces to the LLMs. Imagine when the capabilities of coding agents surface up to these professions. It’s already starting to happen with Claude Cowork. I swear if I see another presentation with that default theme…

This. As annoying as all sorts of 'safety features' are, the sheer amount of effort that goes into further restricting that on the corporate wrapper side side makes llm nigh unusable. How can those kids even begin to get the idea of what it can do, when it seems like its severely locked down.

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by kgwxd »

Oh great, we're at the stage of constantly talking about it, AND talking about how we're sick of talking about it. Now every article will be as long as before + a prefix paragraph explaining how they know we're all sick of talking about it, but...

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Post by elbasti »

tonmoy wrote: post #57
lpcvoid wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI is one of the causes that climate change is accelerating, which is another in a long list of reasons to hate it.

Im not sure I follow. AI barely consumes energy compared to other industries and instead of focusing on the heavy hitters first wasting time on the climate impact on AI doesn’t seem useful

This is wrong. AI uses ~4% of the US grid, and projections are that it will grow to 10%+ in the next 6 years.

And most of that new capacity will be natural gas. That increase would basically whipe out the reduction in CO2 emissions the USA has had since 2018.

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Post by [deleted] »

kerblang wrote: post #107
vablings wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This summarizes mostly how I feel about it. It's a tool like any other tool we have advanced since the beginning of human civilization Machine tools replaced blacksmiths CNC machines replaced manual machines. Robots replaced CNC machine tenders CAD replaced draftsman (and also pushed that job onto engineers (grr)) P&P robots replaced human production lines. The steam train replaced the horse and cart This is a tale a…

Those were deterministic rather than stochastic

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Post by JoshTriplett »

01100011 wrote: post #121
vrganj wrote: post #18

AI is fine . The hype is annoying. What's even worse though are the incredible amounts of money and energy that are being thrown at it, with no regard for the consequences, in times of record inequality and looming climate apocalypse. AI is the red herring that'll waste all our attention until it's too late.

It's a hail mary dash towards AGI. If we get computers to think for us, we can solve a lot of our most pressing issues. If not, well we've accelerated a lot of our worst problems(global warming, big tech, wealth inequality, surveillance state, post-truth culture, etc).

> It's a hail mary dash towards AGI. If we get computers to think for us, we can solve a lot of our most pressing issues.

All but one of them simultaneously, in fact. The one being left out: wanting to keep existing.

Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by arcxi »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #98
vrganj wrote: post #18

AI is fine . The hype is annoying. What's even worse though are the incredible amounts of money and energy that are being thrown at it, with no regard for the consequences, in times of record inequality and looming climate apocalypse. AI is the red herring that'll waste all our attention until it's too late.

> AI is fine. The hype is annoying. I'm finding the detractors worse than the hype, because it seems like a certain subset of detractors [0] formed their opinion on AI in late 2022/early 2023 when ChatGPT came out (REALLY!? Over 3 years ago!?) and then never updated their opinions since then. They'll say things like "why would I want to consume X amount of energy and Y amount of water just to get a wrong answer?" In…

This very comment is measurably more harmful than any AI criticism that annoys you - someone will read this and assume it's appropriate to accept whatever bullshit Claude generates at face value, with terrible consequences.

In contrast, what harm do those detractors cause? They don't generate as much code per hour?

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