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Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by troupo »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #41
troupo wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- They are rapidly iOS-ifying the desktop experience - All core services and apps experience significant performance degradation (to thenpoint that Spotlight regularly fails to find installed apps) which are currently only offset by the insane performance of the M* series chips - Services become more and more pervasive, with ads throughout the system

I don't know what that first one means. You mean the glass design? Yeah, spotlight has been rough for years, I grant you that. I haven't seen a single ad in my system. Where do you see them?

> I don't know what that first one means. You mean the glass design?

Not just glass. It started with Big Sur at least. It's forcing narrow and/or devoid of controls interfaces into every app, breaking decades-old system behaviours (misbehaving controls, wrong or non-functioning keyboard shortcuts, mobile-like interfaces in desktop apps etc.). It's eschewing MacOS-native development for shoddy half-assed ports of iPhone software even for first-party apps. Etc.

> I haven't seen a single ad in my system. Where do you see them?

I've seen notifications for Apple Music, and I've seen ads in the System Settings

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by wildrhythms »

zabzonk wrote: post #97

> injected advertisements into the Windows 11 Start menu's "Recommended" section. These showed up labeled "Promoted" and pushed apps like Opera browser and some password manager nobody asked for. And the Start menu was just one surface, they also placed ads on the lock screen, in the Settings homepage hawking Game Pass subscriptions sorry, I have never seen these supposed ads in win11. the lock screen does display ic…

>sorry, I have never seen these supposed ads in win11

It's a setting called "Get fun facts, tips, tricks, and more on your lock screen", and it's checked by default.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by alexb_ »

Mashimo wrote: post #115
no_shadowban_3 wrote: post #2

These flowers smell like shit. If you don't use Linux or MacOS yet, why?

I used linux on Desktop 15 years ago, tried it once in a while every few years. But there was always something. Often video driver, tearing, hardware video decoding, or a specific game that I played a lot. And now it would be that my DJ software does not run on it. Still use it on my server though. I might try a MacBook air at some point, but they are quite expensive when you need 1TB disk for your music files. But f…

The last time I tried to use Linux, I said "fuck this" when I had to open up a text editor for something so basic as making a shortcut with command line arguments. This is the easiest menu in the world on Windows, but it took me looking up a bunch of things to get it to not work on Linux.

The real crime, by a lot, it middle click. I did not realize how often I use middle click scroll until I switched to Linux and it didn't work anymore.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by anthonylevine »

account42 wrote: post #118
mexicocitinluez wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blaming React is absurd. Its like blaming the screwdriver instead of the person using it.

We can blame both. If my repair bill was higher because the mechanic chose to use a ridiculous electric screwdriver that used tons of power to achieve what a normal screwdriver can and stripped the screws in the process then I'd also be upset with both the mechanic and the ridiculously inefficient tool.

> a ridiculous electric screwdriver

So React, the most popular front-end library and used my hundreds of thousands of successful apps, is the ridiculous electric screwdriver? See how weird that sounds and makes it obvious you guys can't give an honest assessment?

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by throwa356262 »

Havoc wrote: post #48

Their office subscriptions are also going up in price at. Crazy rates. Giving Stiff competition to food price inflation All because it has some AI stuff on it that I don’t want.

Yes the price hike is almost 2x

If anyone knows how to revert to non-AI version of the subscription let me know

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by wildrhythms »

conceptme wrote: post #10
no_shadowban_3 wrote: post #2

These flowers smell like shit. If you don't use Linux or MacOS yet, why?

Games

I've been running Fedora (or a flavor) on my gaming PC for two years. All my games work. I understand some competitive games with intrusive anti cheat are incompatible, but with the success of the steam deck I don't think the gaming argument is holding much water these days.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by aleph_minus_one »

9dev wrote: post #95
dahcryn wrote: post #80

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6k would be a no-brainer. In our office, we'd definitely need the enterprise version for compliance reasons, not because of the features. That's about 14/user/month. At a workforce of roughly 2500, that's a 4million+ yearly cost for something that is comparable to something you can get without that pricetag. It's no competition at all at that point. Think about it, would you be willing to ask your boss to pay 4 milli…

I feel like most Americans don't appreciate the financial constraints under which European startups are operating :) The median series A is something like 1–6 million Euros over here. You have to seriously consider what you spend money for on these scales.

> I feel like most Americans don't appreciate the financial constraints under which European startups are operating :) The median series A is something like 1–6 million Euros over here. You have to seriously consider what you spend money for on these scales.

I, living in Germany, rather wonder myself quite often why US-American tech startups don't act much more frugally: this would give them so much more leeway/runway to make their startups succeed.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by account42 »

mschild wrote: post #27
ptero wrote: post #11

Microsoft lost its way much earlier than 4 years ago. It abused users at the time of Netscape wars and forcing Internet Explorer down people's throats. But they hit an infinite gold mine with government adoption and for the last 30 years no amount of bad engineering was able to shake off government use. Windows 11 is bad? Yes, but did you try Microsoft Teams? The only way to force Microsoft into "users matter" engine…

I find Teams is often simply picked because of cost reasons. A lot of companies are paying for office and teams comes bundled with it. Why pay extra when its included?

Don't forget network effects. If other companies you are working with use Teams then there is less friction if you also use Teams yourself.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by piva00 »

ekianjo wrote: post #100
Draiken wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think "care" is the right word here at all. We simply don't have options. This is capitalism's biggest flaw: it's based on the assumption that there will be competition, but competition eventually leads to winners that then consolidate their positions and we end up with no real choices. You're telling me people would pick a worse OS because they don't care even if they had real options? I don't believe that f…

> This is capitalism's biggest flaw: it's based on the assumption that there will be competition The fact that governments allow Microsoft to abuse its position to force OEMs to install Windows is the biggest problem. This would never happen in a market where regulation ensures healthy competition.

That version of capitalism sailed 40 years ago in the USA, antitrust enforcement has slowly disappeared which creates a race to the bottom for other countries who would like their companies to compete against USA's companies. If they enforce antitrust then the behemoths created in the USA by absorbing competitors without antitrust enforcement can eat their lunch, even though it's better for consumers.

Unfortunately this also allowed the USA to have companies so large that they basically control the government, changing this now will require massive political will and a political body untethered from corporate interests. I really don't see that happening in the USA, it's been thoroughly captured after so many years driving on that path.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Post by yfw »

Macha wrote: post #7

It’s quite common for companies to work their way up to the line of the most user hostile version of their product that users will tolerate. Especially with software where they can just go flip a switch and turn off whatever feature did cross the line but keep everything they gained by inching up to the line, which seems to inevitably result in things like the condition of windows 11. I think the only way this gets b…

Like that windows recall feature which they keep pushing
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