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Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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I think we need to be a bit more careful and considerate around the use of language around physical abuse, or abuse in general, and using software. Saying that here as someone that isn't fond of the Windows experience these days, but the two are not relatable.

Beating is a normal English idiom. While I do sympathize with anyone suffering from abuse, I highly doubt anyone is actually suffering from use of the word.

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Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Macs are too expensive for the same performance/ram, and Linux still can't run proper creative software.

This used to be the case but looking at Macbooks now they are not much more expensive than a Windows laptop you would actually want to buy. And since they will still have some residual value 5 years from now i think it's about even.

> And since they will still have some residual value 5 years from now.

I dont know any private person in my circle that actually sold their laptop until it wasnt broken or so painfully old that the used value was mostly for spare parts. That may change a bit with the skyrocketing pc part prices but still.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Macs are circling down the same drain.

In what way?

- They are rapidly iOS-ifying the desktop experience

- All core services and apps experience significant performance degradation (to thenpoint that Spotlight regularly fails to find installed apps) which are currently only offset by the insane performance of the M* series chips

- Services become more and more pervasive, with ads throughout the system

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Microsoft lost its way much earlier than 4 years ago. It abused users at the time of Netscape wars and forcing Internet Explorer down people's throats. But they hit an infinite gold mine with government adoption and for the last 30 years no amount of bad engineering was able to shake off government use. Windows 11 is bad? Yes, but did you try Microsoft Teams? The only way to force Microsoft into "users matter" engine…

I find Teams is often simply picked because of cost reasons. A lot of companies are paying for office and teams comes bundled with it. Why pay extra when its included?

Yep, the amount of penny pinching some companies do nowadays is insane. Teams coming "for free" with their Microsoft 365 subscription is net positive for the bean counters.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Every product manager at the company in the Windows and MS office products divisions need fired.

They have made so many unforced errors in recent years its hard to imagine serious people currently inhabit those roles.

Office.com, the cornerstone of Office, is now just a prompt. A prompt!!!!

They make it near impossible to manage a small/medium sized company with the unending tweaking, moving, and rebranding of every single portal in that product.

It's absolutely wild that a company as big and important to the business world as they are is playing this fast and loose. I'm quite frankly embarrassed for them.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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post #3

I think we need to be a bit more careful and considerate around the use of language around physical abuse, or abuse in general, and using software. Saying that here as someone that isn't fond of the Windows experience these days, but the two are not relatable.

Beating is a normal English idiom. While I do sympathize with anyone suffering from abuse, I highly doubt anyone is actually suffering from use of the word.

I agree with stndef. "Flowers after beating" is a very direct evocation of physical abuse in an intimate relationship. Whether or not you think it's appropriate.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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post #27
post #11

Microsoft lost its way much earlier than 4 years ago. It abused users at the time of Netscape wars and forcing Internet Explorer down people's throats. But they hit an infinite gold mine with government adoption and for the last 30 years no amount of bad engineering was able to shake off government use. Windows 11 is bad? Yes, but did you try Microsoft Teams? The only way to force Microsoft into "users matter" engine…

I find Teams is often simply picked because of cost reasons. A lot of companies are paying for office and teams comes bundled with it. Why pay extra when its included?

That was the reason we ditched Slack. I hate Teams with a passion, but we're not going to pay 6k per year for a chat app if we get Teams for free. There's just no way to defend that decision.

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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These flowers smell like shit. If you don't use Linux or MacOS yet, why?

Games

Fair. Depends on the game to be honest.

I switched from Windows 10 to Fedora recently. Most of the games I play work without issue but I know there are some which categorically refuse to work (mainly some specific anti-cheating software reasons).

Re: Microsoft's "fix" for Windows 11

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beating is a normal English idiom. While I do sympathize with anyone suffering from abuse, I highly doubt anyone is actually suffering from use of the word.

I'm willing to be wrong, but it's specifically mentioned as an analogy for abuse in the article itself. Not trying to turn everything "woke", but phrasing of scenarios around this just takes away from the severity of what actual abuse is.

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