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Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by RivieraKid »

shinratdr wrote: post #178
RivieraKid wrote: post #142

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Because on average, LTE does not improve UX that much. For example for me, the UX improvement would be zero (I don't have LTE coverage). It also uses more battery. And for me, 3G is fast enough (about 2Mbit/s where I live). I don't think that 2x faster GPU improves UX a lot for the average user. Accurate maps are more important IMHO.

> I don't think that 2x faster GPU improves UX a lot for the average user. I think that statement says more about Android fans than it does about "the average users". Who needs a fluid UI and responsiveness that can't be beat? That hardly affects the U-->X The way iOS works benefits heavily from an overpowered GPU because it was designed with hardware acceleration as a core consideration from the ground up. Android d…

According to the reviews, N4's interface is completely smooth, stutter-free. That's why 2x faster GPU wouldn't improve the UX much.

Ok, LTE improves UX, but it's not that big deal as you make it sound.

Apple Maps may be ok where you live, but overall the consensus is (even among Apple fanboys and Apple CEO) that Google Maps are better.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #166
bryanlarsen wrote: post #149

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You're really good at cherry picking, aren't you? Anandtech for the performance numbers, Engadget for battery life numbers. By Anandtech's numbers, the Nexus 10 gets 93% of the battery life of the iPad, even though the Nexus 10 uses a much smaller battery. Between the lighter battery and the grippy back, Google designed a device that can be safely held in one hand, a tradeoff I appreciate.

You're wasting your breath. There's three or four them that do this in every , single, last Android thread.

To be fair they have their equivalents in the Apple threads.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by clarky07 »

ajross wrote: post #88
clarky07 wrote: post #72

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It's also worth pointing out, that Apple has kept huge market share and profits in the iPod market. Sales have only gone down recently because everyone already has 1(or 2 or 3). I'd like to think Apple has learned a few things since 90, and I also think these markets are a bit different. The compatibility problem isn't as bad this time, as most devs are making apps for both platforms, Apple still has a (slight) advan…

Sure, but those aren't independent variables. Their advantage in profitability derives almost entirely from their perceived advantage in quality (both because consumers will pay more for the devices in sticker price and because they can command better deals with carrier partners who know that they'll sell more boxes). Over the long term, no one is going to pay more for iOS devices that don't have a clear quality adva…

I think you misunderstood. I'm talking about the apps on the platforms. The devs are making slightly better apps, and they are making significantly more on iOS. As long as those continue to be true, it will compete with users as a phone and will compete with devs as a platform.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by wutbrodo »

danielrhodes wrote: post #58

This whole article reads like Google is announcing it's dominance, as if it's some Christian crusader claiming a conquered land in the name of the Pope and Christianity. Here's my interpretation of some of what I read: "If Google decides that HTML5 web apps are the way forward, making them a first-class citizen in future versions of Android, then other mobile OSes will have no other option than to follow suit." (We c…

Apparently you're unaware that extremetech.com is not a part of Google (and unaffiliated with them, as far as I know). All of those quotations are from the article, which Google didn't write...so I fail to see how any of this is "Google announcing its dominance" (as opposed to ExtremeTech announcing their perception of Google's dominance, which is a VASTLY different thing).

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by eta_carinae »

clarky07 wrote: post #82
eta_carinae wrote: post #26

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> Big Market Share. Worthless user-base. You sound exactly like these people standing in line for iPhones in the Samsung commercial.

that commercial is a terrible piece of advertising. I would have gotten a samsung for testing because its the best android phone (as far as i can tell as an iphone user) but i won't anymore. Telling your potential customers that they are idiots isn't a good strategy. I'll buy a nexus, htc, or motorola instead.

> Telling your potential customers that they are idiots

Their potential customers are not people standing in line for hours to buy an iPhone, so the ad is spot on.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by gte910h »

drivebyacct2 wrote: post #17
gte910h wrote: post #4

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This feels a bit cheerleadery? This is actual PHONE MARKETSHARE being delivered (not necessarily sold, as many of them are subsidized to $0). Additionally, looking at just phones is a myopic view of the mobile landscape, when tablets and mini tablets (aka, iPodTouches and sub 6" android tablets) are a huge source of gaming revenue.

>(not necessarily sold, as many of them are subsidized to $0). Why does that matter? [Samsung, Moto, etc] get that money. The subsidy doesn't just make the phone magically free. Besides, either way, it's NOT an iOS sale, or an WP7 sale, and that matters just as much.

It implies a consumer preference that isn't necessarily there and appears to show android at a higher share of device use than is likely a real picture of actual user behavior.

Information that is wrong makes people make poor decisions. I would feel bad if someone overvalued this marketshare number when choosing to make apps, for instance.

Additionally the actual statistic gathered is "shipments" not "sales" which is a different definition. One KEY point there is TONS of iPhone 5's didn't ship in Q3, even though they were purchased then.

Lastly, quoting "shipments of smartphones" then talking about the iPad mini as if it's in these numbers makes the article itself dubious (it is not taken into account in these numbers).

I just want people to stop cheerleading and report facts. Android is leading in # of screens, I just want someone to quote accurate, non-bullshitty numbers about it, instead of fake sliced up numbers about it that give a false picture of the landscape because it ignores members of the ecosystem (Ignoring small tablets such as the galaxy S 5"/iPod Touches is like ignoring PCs that just don't happen to have a 802.11b card installed in them: A weird way to slice statistical data).

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by gte910h »

Kylekramer wrote: post #6
gte910h wrote: post #5

This title feels a bit cheerleadery? This is actual phone handset market being delivered (not necessarily sold, as many of them are subsidized to $0). Additionally, looking at just phones is a myopic view of the mobile landscape, when tablets and mini tablets (aka, iPodTouches and sub 6" android tablets) are a huge source of gaming revenue as well as advertisement revenue. I think the ecosystem is still a vibrant mul…

I honestly don't see how you get cheerleadery out of "Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold". That is about as factual as it gets.

Because it's not true?

Android is the OS loaded on 75% of the phones shipped in Q3. Not sold.

For instance: iPhone5 was not shipped for the vast majority of people who purchased it when released in Q3, even though they purchased it in Q3.

This is lying with stats. It's annoying as hell.

Re: Android now powers 75% of all smartphones sold

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Post by gte910h »

Goronmon wrote: post #8
gte910h wrote: post #5

This title feels a bit cheerleadery? This is actual phone handset market being delivered (not necessarily sold, as many of them are subsidized to $0). Additionally, looking at just phones is a myopic view of the mobile landscape, when tablets and mini tablets (aka, iPodTouches and sub 6" android tablets) are a huge source of gaming revenue as well as advertisement revenue. I think the ecosystem is still a vibrant mul…

The title makes a clear statement, and the article itself questions whether a Google dominated smartphone landscape is a good thing. I'm not seeing the "cheerleadery" side of this.

The title says sales, the data says shipped. The title says "smartphones" the actual software platforms (aka Android vs iOS vs whatever else) are mobile devices, not phones.

The first part alone really screws up the numbers, as tons of iPhone5s were sold, but not shipped, in Q3.

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