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Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

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If your assistant is causing you to work more hours and only sleeping 4 hours per night, is it really a good assistant? I think I'd be firing an assistant that did that to my life. I'm a big believer is not just doing something because I can. Could AI build me a personal suite of apps to manage my life in the exact way I want... maybe? Should I spend my time doing that, even if AI is writing 100% of the code? Probabl…

If my brain got a 100x overclock (both on speed and endurance), I'd be excited to use it all the time too.

The issue is obviously AI isn't that, it's a simulation of that that often fails...

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

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I have learned to temper it, but it is very challenging. The part that I actually struggle with is creating too much code that I can’t keep up with the high level “what does this do”, user and data flow. I went through the plan, refined it and spent all of my cognitive tokens on that part. That by the time I revisit that feature, I personally lost the context of the “why”.

This has forced me to not do anything extra or while I’m in there. Just focus on 1-3 critical features at a time.

I must remember to go back and clear out dead code, tighten up the repo, and make sure all the new services are following the standards of the rest of the codebase

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

#14

If your assistant is causing you to work more hours and only sleeping 4 hours per night, is it really a good assistant? I think I'd be firing an assistant that did that to my life. I'm a big believer is not just doing something because I can. Could AI build me a personal suite of apps to manage my life in the exact way I want... maybe? Should I spend my time doing that, even if AI is writing 100% of the code? Probabl…

If my brain got a 100x overclock (both on speed and endurance), I'd be excited to use it all the time too. The issue is obviously AI isn't that, it's a simulation of that that often fails...

> If my brain got a 100x overclock (both on speed and endurance), I'd be excited to use it all the time too.

Ted Chiang's Understand comes to mind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Understand_(story)

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

#15

If your assistant is causing you to work more hours and only sleeping 4 hours per night, is it really a good assistant? I think I'd be firing an assistant that did that to my life. I'm a big believer is not just doing something because I can. Could AI build me a personal suite of apps to manage my life in the exact way I want... maybe? Should I spend my time doing that, even if AI is writing 100% of the code? Probabl…

> When it breaks or has bugs, who has to deal with me? Me. What about the infrastructure? Another thing to do.

Wait, why are you doing it? If you're already that far, have the AI agent do that for you as well.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

#16

If your assistant is causing you to work more hours and only sleeping 4 hours per night, is it really a good assistant? I think I'd be firing an assistant that did that to my life. I'm a big believer is not just doing something because I can. Could AI build me a personal suite of apps to manage my life in the exact way I want... maybe? Should I spend my time doing that, even if AI is writing 100% of the code? Probabl…

> When it breaks or has bugs, who has to deal with me? Me. What about the infrastructure? Another thing to do. Wait, why are you doing it? If you're already that far, have the AI agent do that for you as well.

Because of course the thing that persistently fails to make it work will somehow fix it?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

#17

Yeh the guy is going nuts. His whole job analysis thing is ridiculous. To me, it tells the guy has no critical sense, because this kind of paper would ruin the career of any economist.

To me me he's just another example of a very smart programmer being really bad at seeing big pictures, imagining from other perspectives, and generally having people/systems/economics/philosophy wisdom.

Unfortunately it seems endemic in our field. So many great coders have this laughably naive belief that, because they are good at something that makes them feel like a genius when they solve problems, they are in fact geniuses at solving all problems.

Even more unfortunately, AI seems to ramp that up to 10x along with the code generation.

I'm willing to be the public perception of programmers in general is going to be a lot workse five years from now....

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

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Here's the thing. You're kind of dopamine hacking yourself. Using current LLM's is something akin to using a slot machine, and one specifically tuned to work on/predate on knowledge workers. The fact is, while it can talk a good game, and has been RLHF'd to high heaven to validate you all the bloody time to keep you engaged and burning tokens , your brain is simply tuned to reward any semblance of progress, and you g…

> Try running yourself a local model on a sufficiently beefy laptop

I don't understand why you think the solution to using a well tuned and intelligent model is to use one that is a dumbass

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

#19

If your assistant is causing you to work more hours and only sleeping 4 hours per night, is it really a good assistant? I think I'd be firing an assistant that did that to my life. I'm a big believer is not just doing something because I can. Could AI build me a personal suite of apps to manage my life in the exact way I want... maybe? Should I spend my time doing that, even if AI is writing 100% of the code? Probabl…

> When it breaks or has bugs, who has to deal with me? Me. What about the infrastructure? Another thing to do. Wait, why are you doing it? If you're already that far, have the AI agent do that for you as well.

Who is having the AI do it? It would be me, correct? I have to tell the AI to fix the bugs and make sure they are fixed. I have to tell the AI to build the infrastructure and hope it works. Then I have to pay for it and hope it didn’t do something stupid that will cost Me a small fortune.

The point is, none of this stuff just happens. I would have to be involved in all of it, and the more it does, the more I need to do from a guidance and oversight perspective.

Is this what I want my life to be? It sounds absolutely awful.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone here also developing "perpetual AI psychosis" like Karpathy?

#20
I had a brief period of that of about a month, and quickly realized the limitations that come with specifically coding using AI agents. I now still use AI agents but step by step with me steering it. Otherwise it turns into slop no matter how sophisticated the guard rails and skill files.
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