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US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by mikkupikku »

kube-system wrote: post #115
mikkupikku wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People laugh at this, but anthracite genuinely is cleaner than other coal in every regard save CO2 emissions. People just think it's a joke because they've come to believe that CO2 is the only coal emission worth caring about, which definitely isn't true.

No, the criticism isn't because people get caught up about CO2 -- it's because "cleaner than other coal" is a very low bar to meet to be calling something "clean" full stop. Also "clean coal" is not a type of coal being burnt (although that does matter too) but pollution control systems added to coal plants.

Anthracite burns clean enough to use in a pizza oven. If your neighbor told you he was going to install a new furnace and offered you the choice of it burning wood pellets or anthracite, from a smell standpoint you should absolutely choose the anthracite.

Anthracite, in these regards, is very different from bituminous coal.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by kube-system »

mikkupikku wrote: post #121
kube-system wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the criticism isn't because people get caught up about CO2 -- it's because "cleaner than other coal" is a very low bar to meet to be calling something "clean" full stop. Also "clean coal" is not a type of coal being burnt (although that does matter too) but pollution control systems added to coal plants.

Anthracite burns clean enough to use in a pizza oven. If your neighbor told you he was going to install a new furnace and offered you the choice of it burning wood pellets or anthracite, from a smell standpoint you should absolutely choose the anthracite. Anthracite, in these regards, is very different from bituminous coal.

>Anthracite burns clean enough to use in a pizza oven.

Yeah, so does wood, which is horribly polluting.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by hatthew »

mikkupikku wrote: post #121
kube-system wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the criticism isn't because people get caught up about CO2 -- it's because "cleaner than other coal" is a very low bar to meet to be calling something "clean" full stop. Also "clean coal" is not a type of coal being burnt (although that does matter too) but pollution control systems added to coal plants.

Anthracite burns clean enough to use in a pizza oven. If your neighbor told you he was going to install a new furnace and offered you the choice of it burning wood pellets or anthracite, from a smell standpoint you should absolutely choose the anthracite. Anthracite, in these regards, is very different from bituminous coal.

And both are very different from not burning anything.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by softwaredoug »

mikkupikku wrote: post #96

If the government would like to pay me to also not build wind turbines, hit me up. I mean, I wasn't going to build any in the first place, but I think this makes me qualified to continue not building any.

I think it’s in part returning money this company paid the government

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by feurio »

tombert wrote: post #53
mandeepj wrote: post #39

The guy is unhinged, hellbent on denial, just to appease his base, who are going bankrupt because of his policies. Would he pay Sun as well to stop shining over the US?

The overrated and very annoying "sun", the so-called "star" that our planet goes around has been going unquestioned for too long! Many people have been asking for a long time, perhaps even before Obama, to remove the sun from the sky and replace it with our beautiful clean coal towers!

"Since the beginning of time man has yearned to destroy the sun" - Charles Montgomery Burns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3LbxDZRgA4

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by bjourne »

angelgonzales wrote: post #102
rockooooo wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the dollar cost he's talking about does not include the large dollar cost the externalities burning gas creates

Does the offshore wind energy costs include externalities of fabricating, assembling, shipping, installing, maintaining and decommissioning the turbines? Does it also include bird losses and whale harms?

Yes.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by mikkupikku »

kube-system wrote: post #122
mikkupikku wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthracite burns clean enough to use in a pizza oven. If your neighbor told you he was going to install a new furnace and offered you the choice of it burning wood pellets or anthracite, from a smell standpoint you should absolutely choose the anthracite. Anthracite, in these regards, is very different from bituminous coal.

>Anthracite burns clean enough to use in a pizza oven. Yeah, so does wood, which is horribly polluting.

The smell of wood might be nice for flavor, but that's beyond the point of anthracite being clean. That particulate pollution from wood burning is severe compared to the smoke you'll get off anthracite, which is virtually nonexistent.
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