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US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by tokai »

throwway120385 wrote: post #35
harmmonica wrote: post #17

I know this US government is fully-committed to fossil fuels and about as rabidly anti-renewables as can be, but I'm still shocked to see things like this. And I'm fully aware of Trump's Scotland experience and how that contributed or directly led to this, but, still, shocked. And then I'm also shocked because I know that at least half, if not a good bit more, of US citizens are in agreement with this strategy. Not s…

This might surprise you, but only a minority of eligible voters vote. So while it looks like 50% of people believe this is a good strategy and we should do it based on the percentage of people who voted for Trump, in reality a minority of people in the US believe this is good. The problem is that few of those people vote. So in all seriousness, if we could get a significant fraction of the young people who are negati…

63.45% voted last time. Thats not a minority.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by jeffbee »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #37
jeffbee wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The United States has already been destroyed. It is no longer in question, or in the future tense.

This is comfortable doomerism. But it isn’t accurate. Moreover, it’s dangerous since the numpties who tend to believe it then politically disengage.

None of the institutions function, or do the thing that we used to explain to children what they do. The whole thing demonstrably does not exist. You're welcome to describe my view with whatever pejorative you prefer.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by tombert »

mandeepj wrote: post #39

The guy is unhinged, hellbent on denial, just to appease his base, who are going bankrupt because of his policies. Would he pay Sun as well to stop shining over the US?

The overrated and very annoying "sun", the so-called "star" that our planet goes around has been going unquestioned for too long! Many people have been asking for a long time, perhaps even before Obama, to remove the sun from the sky and replace it with our beautiful clean coal towers!

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Post by blix »

specialist wrote: post #50
MaxHoppersGhost wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>The US, should it survive this administration This level of doomerism is absurd. Of course the US will survive this administration. I blame the news for making every breathe by whichever opposition seem like the next WWIII.

Pax Americana is doomed. What the USA looks like post-hegemony is TBD.

The Pax Americana was already over when Russia siezed Crimea.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by Mashimo »

gmueckl wrote: post #12

Do I have it right that the two projects that this deal kills off haven't seen any construction work yet? These aren't among the projects that the stop work orders were issued against in December, right?

These ones no construction had been started yet AFAIK.

If AI summery is to be trusted, a few other windparks got stopped that where almost done, but got completed anyway after a legal battle. Vineyard Wind 1, Coastal Virginia (CVOW), Empire Wind 1, Revolution Wind, Sunrise Wind.

Again, got it from AI, make of that what you want.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by kakacik »

MaxHoppersGhost wrote: post #30
throwaway5752 wrote: post #18

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>The US, should it survive this administration This level of doomerism is absurd. Of course the US will survive this administration. I blame the news for making every breathe by whichever opposition seem like the next WWIII.

The land will be there. (most of) people will be there. What parent probably meant is losing everything good and positive United States of America represented in past 80+ years, internally and globally.

That is gone my friend, with the wind like a sulfuric fart, for good. US is becoming a global terrorist and enemy #2 of free world and certainly whole Europe (right after its biggest and only 'friend', russia which coincidentally keeps trying to make you a thing of the past). This comes from somebody who strongly believed in your role in global hegemony despite your numerous well documented fuckups in the past. All on the whims of one visibly mentally sick man, with absolutely nobody standing up to him despite nobody really believing in any of that bullshit. No principles, just plain greed and firm fuck-the-rest approach. Right now, if Europe needs a strong big ally it will be #1 China, and then... nothing.

The fact you voted him in, and he still has massive support, and there has been 0 overthrow attempts of the biggest traitor to US in its history tells me and everybody else in the world many things, but nothing positive. Even if next election, if they will happen, will have 98% win of the democracts with that ridiculous unfair and undemocratic system of yours, it won't change a permanent shift that started and keeps happening. US has no real allies, in same vein russia or China has no real allies.

Empires rise and fall, inevitably, there was never a reason to think US would be an exception.

Re: US and TotalEnergies reach 'nearly $1B' deal to end offshore wind projects

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Post by armada651 »

mandeepj wrote: post #39

The guy is unhinged, hellbent on denial, just to appease his base, who are going bankrupt because of his policies. Would he pay Sun as well to stop shining over the US?

It's even stupider than that, it's not even to appease his base, it's a personal grudge. Trump sued a wind energy company to prevent them from building an off-shore wind farm in view of his golf resort in Scotland. He lost that case badly and he has been railing against wind energy specifically ever since.

So far Trump hasn't done much to prevent solar farms from being built, it's only wind turbines that he's exacting his vengeance on like some sort of modern day Don Quixote.

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