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Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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Re: Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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> She said she heard about the Tin Can on a Facebook group. Nice to safe the kids from that... But who will save the adults? ^^ Yes, social media is bad for kids. You start to realize that. It only took 15 years. The thing is: It's equally bad for you... And you prove that every minute. Whenever you say something, and after three sentences, basically every topic ends up in something related to Instatoktube. My only h…

It's way way worse for kids especially adolescents

Re: Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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Smartphones are good and we shouldn't demonize them.

Judge the tree by its fruits. Children are showing very real signs of addiction, and unlike known quantities like video games, or TV in past generations, parents are being pressured into handing children a device, usually completely or effectively without any safety controls, a private screen with which everyone in the world, every corporation, foreign country, friend or foe, can pour propaganda, toxicity, lies, porn, etc. directly into their brains. We should be careful with this.

Before the smartphone did all this, no one would have come out and campaigned to build a new kind of free library outside every middle school where all these things were advertised and made readily available to kids anonymously. We do have real libraries, but they don’t just automatically accept and push books donated by any random company, foreign country, or random pervert. Because that’s an insane thing to do.

The burden should have been on the “smartphones are good” people to prove that giving kids all that was worth the downsides, or to have shown how any supposed benefits could be had more safely, without requiring all parents to become experienced MDM admins, which they just won’t do.

Re: Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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Seems like there are a bunch of alternatives popping up including some DIY solutions. Which is really awesome in this space. Check out https://www.beanstalk.club/ I've done some work with these folks. I love their bring-your-own-phone approach. There are so many cool old-school phones out there, even on ebay. We've also seen lots of success with Beanstalk and a simple $20 cordless phone. Kids love wandering around chit-chatting. There's also a ton of momentum around the https://www.waituntil8th.org/ pledge.

Re: Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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I "made" something like this 7-8 years ago for our first kid. When I say "made" I mean I bought a "fixed wireless terminal" for $40 on eBay, a classic landline phone for $30, and a cell phone subscription for kids ($5/month). Then I connected the parts, and voila, we had a landline for kids. Obvious benefits include low cost, full interop with all other phones, and having the kids learn our phone numbers by heart aft…

Thanks for sharing the "fixed wireless terminal" tip. A HN post a while ago describe hacking a landline to a wireless terminal. But this tip removes the hacking :)

Re: Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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Why does it seem like many parents are unaware that a hand me down iPhone can be heavily locked down with screen time settings? A list of things you can do: - allowed list of apps, can reduce it to just phone, imessage, and utilities like weather app - effectively permanent downtime, just set the end time less than start time such as 3:00 am to 2:59 am (technically 1 minute of non downtime). This blocks apps except f…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

Re: Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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A year ago, I got my 8 y/o a landline (we used Ooma). It has been absolutely wonderful. By far the best thing is that he makes his own playdates. I'm not the middleman anymore. He just makes plans and asks me if it's ok. And if his friend doesn't have a landline, I let him call their parent. It surprises them, but when he leaves a message, they love it. He's definitely had more time with friends because of it. Anothe…

My kids are grown up, but my mom is worried about her AT&T service switching to VOIP. She didn't understand my description of Ooma, which I've been using for many years, but now I'm thinking that I should just bring over all the needed hardware and just call it a landline.

Re: Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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A year ago, I got my 8 y/o a landline (we used Ooma). It has been absolutely wonderful. By far the best thing is that he makes his own playdates. I'm not the middleman anymore. He just makes plans and asks me if it's ok. And if his friend doesn't have a landline, I let him call their parent. It surprises them, but when he leaves a message, they love it. He's definitely had more time with friends because of it. Anothe…

Formal thank you notes seem to have been going out of fashion, I actually like that tradition, thank you for keeping it going.

Re: Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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Funny enough, China already ran this experiment. Kids' smartwatches started as call-only devices for safety. Then they added friend lists, status updates, like counts, popularity rankings. Little Genius now has 48% of the global kids' smartwatch market [1]. Kids delete real-life friends for not having enough likes on the watch. Once a device enters a kid's social life, there's no market incentive to keep it simple. […

>Then they added friend lists, status updates, like counts, popularity rankings.

That sounds absolutely horrible.

Re: Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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Also note that if you buy a Tin Can unit, there's a noncompete clause: You agree not to "build, benchmark, or develop a competing product or service." So don't buy this if you work for a telco, or a voice communications service of any kind.

This is laughably unenforceable, and all the more ridiculous for it.

If a company puts unenforceable terms in their TOS, how likely are they to comply with the law in every other matter? No way would I give my kid a device made by these people for that reason.

Re: Tin Can, a 'landline' for kids

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Off-topic, but I hate sites like this. All links in the article are for other pages on businessinsider.com, but there's no link to Tin Can, not that I can find at least. It's getting more and more normal that sites won't link out of their own "property".

Especially weird in this case since it’s such an over the top case of Submarine Marketing.
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