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GitHub appears to be struggling with measly three nines availability

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Re: GitHub appears to be struggling with measly three nines availability

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Post by awestroke »

embedding-shape wrote: post #3

From GitHub CTO in 2025 when they announced they're moving everything to Azure instead of letting GitHub's infrastructure remain independent: > For us, availability is job #1, and this migration ensures GitHub remains the fast, reliable platform developers depend on That went about as well as everyone thought back then. Does anyone else remember back in ~2014-2015 sometime, when half the community was screaming at Gi…

Perhaps when they switch over fully to Azure they'll forget to disable IPv6 access. One can dream

Re: GitHub appears to be struggling with measly three nines availability

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Post by MoreQARespect »

_heimdall wrote: post #9

I'm surprised GitHub got by acting fairly independently inside Microsoft for so long. I'm also surprised GitHub employees expected that to last The real problem today IMO is that Microsoft waited so long to drop the charade that they now felt like they had to rip the bandaid. From what I've heard the transition hasn't gone very smoothly at all, and they've mostly been given tight deadlines with little to no help from…

It operated with an independent CEO for a long while.

When I saw his interview: https://thenewstack.io/github-ceo-on-why-well-still-need-hum... i thought "oh, there is some semblance of sanity at Microsoft".

This was after seeing those ridiculous PRs where microsoft engineers patiently deconstructed AI slop PRs they were forced to deal with on the open source repos they maintained.

When he was gone a few months later and github was folded into microsoft's org chart the writing was firmly on the wall.

Re: GitHub appears to be struggling with measly three nines availability

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Post by comboy »

embedding-shape wrote: post #3

From GitHub CTO in 2025 when they announced they're moving everything to Azure instead of letting GitHub's infrastructure remain independent: > For us, availability is job #1, and this migration ensures GitHub remains the fast, reliable platform developers depend on That went about as well as everyone thought back then. Does anyone else remember back in ~2014-2015 sometime, when half the community was screaming at Gi…

I think stability and reliability have vastly improved over the last years in general (not necessarily talking about gh specifically)

It's just that everybody is using 100 tools and dependencies which themselves depend on 50 others to be working.

Re: GitHub appears to be struggling with measly three nines availability

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Post by braiamp »

embedding-shape wrote: post #3

From GitHub CTO in 2025 when they announced they're moving everything to Azure instead of letting GitHub's infrastructure remain independent: > For us, availability is job #1, and this migration ensures GitHub remains the fast, reliable platform developers depend on That went about as well as everyone thought back then. Does anyone else remember back in ~2014-2015 sometime, when half the community was screaming at Gi…

> I wish we could get back to platforms (or OSes for that matter) focusing in reliability and stability

That's only a valid sentiment if you only use the big players. Both of those have medium/smaller competitors that have shown (for decades) that they are extremely boring, therefore stable.

Re: GitHub appears to be struggling with measly three nines availability

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Post by _heimdall »

MoreQARespect wrote: post #12
_heimdall wrote: post #9

I'm surprised GitHub got by acting fairly independently inside Microsoft for so long. I'm also surprised GitHub employees expected that to last The real problem today IMO is that Microsoft waited so long to drop the charade that they now felt like they had to rip the bandaid. From what I've heard the transition hasn't gone very smoothly at all, and they've mostly been given tight deadlines with little to no help from…

It operated with an independent CEO for a long while. When I saw his interview: https://thenewstack.io/github-ceo-on-why-well-still-need-hum... i thought "oh, there is some semblance of sanity at Microsoft". This was after seeing those ridiculous PRs where microsoft engineers patiently deconstructed AI slop PRs they were forced to deal with on the open source repos they maintained. When he was gone a few months later…

He was never truly independent though. The org structure was such that the GitHub CEO reported up through a Microsoft VP and Satya. He was never really a CEO after the acquisition, it was in name only.

Also of note is that the Microsoft org chart always showed GitHub in that structure while the org chart available to GitHub stopped at their CEO. Its not that they were finally rolled into Microsoft's org chart so much as they lifted the veil and stopped pretending.

Re: GitHub appears to be struggling with measly three nines availability

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Post by cedws »

While GitHub obsess over shoving AI into everything, the rest of the platform is genuinely crumbling and its security flaws are being abused to cause massive damage. Last week Aqua Security was breached and a few repositories it owns were infected. The threat actors abused widespread use of mutable references in GitHub Actions, which the community has been screaming about for years, to infect potentially thousands of CI runs. They also abused an issue GitHub has acknowledged but refused to fix that allows smuggling malicious Action references into workflows that look harmless.

GHA can’t even be called Swiss cheese anymore, it’s so much worse than that. Major overhauls are needed. The best we’ve got is Immutable Releases which are opt in on a per-repository basis.

Re: GitHub appears to be struggling with measly three nines availability

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Post by martinald »

I wonder how much of this is down to the massive amount of new repos and commits (of good or bad quality!) from the coding agents. I believe that the App Store is struggling to keep up with (mostly manual tbf) app reviews now, with sharp increases in review times.

I find it hard to believe that an Azure migration would be that detrimental to performance, especially with no doubt "unlimited credit" to play with?

You can provision Linux machines easily on Azure and... that's all you need? Or is the thinking that without bare metal NVMe mySQL it can't cope (which is a bit of a different problem tbf).

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