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Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by surgical_fire »

_osud wrote: post #18

How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review? Some EU courts will not exclude illegally obtained evidence either, so challenging the warrant later on will be pointless. Oh, and you might be in a reasonable EU country and still be hit with an EIO from one of the unreasonable countr…

Generally comfortable.

While the EIO is s controversial instrument (I particularly dislike the excessive power it gives to authorities in issuing countries and the inability to question the warrant), it at least is something that happens as part of a judicial process.

I'm certainly more comfortable with it than being subject to the whims of the US government and its 3 letter agencies.

That said, yeah, EIO in the shape it exists is bad.

Re: Migrating to the EU

#52

Post by hbbio »

Still not accepting Codeberg moral stance.

Yes, gitea (and originally gogs) are released under permissive licenses, so it's legally allowed to fork them.

But forking complete working projects with years of work, rebranding with a "good guys" attitude, and progressively erasing the name/history (mentioning a gitea fork has moved down the faq now) is not fair.

Edit: even worse, the word "fork" is not in the FAQ. It is "Comparison with Gitea" now (fork is mentioned on that page).

Re: Migrating to the EU

#53

Post by ludvigk »

lynx97 wrote: post #43

I find it pretty ironical that people seem to want to move to Von der Leyens vision of the future. As a EU citizen, my trust in what recently has been going down is almost non-existant.

I guess when the alternative is Trump's vision of the future ... - at least I know what I would choose.

Re: Migrating to the EU

#54

Post by jagermo »

Uberspace is solid and a lot of fun to try stuff out. For domains, i would also recommend inwx.com, they have been around for ages, good prices and no-fuzz admin stuff.

Re: Migrating to the EU

#55

Post by hvb2 »

lynx97 wrote: post #46
torben-friis wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by supposedly? The PR model is pretty much universal for a reason. I get why it is considered out of scope for core git, but it is by no means a weird fixation people have.

Just send me an email with your branches URL, and I will pull from it. Thats pretty much what a Pull Request is.

And the discussion about that PR goes in an email chain too?

You can pull, but having the back and forth documented along with the code is not a nice to have imho

Re: Migrating to the EU

#56

Post by jen729w »

hbbio wrote: post #52

Still not accepting Codeberg moral stance. Yes, gitea (and originally gogs) are released under permissive licenses, so it's legally allowed to fork them. But forking complete working projects with years of work, rebranding with a "good guys" attitude, and progressively erasing the name/history (mentioning a gitea fork has moved down the faq now) is not fair. Edit: even worse, the word "fork" is not in the FAQ. It is…

> Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software…

– https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/blob/main/LICENSE

If you don't want your software used like that, don't choose this licence.

You can't post-hoc decide how people behave.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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Post by throw0101c »

_osud wrote: post #18

How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review? Some EU courts will not exclude illegally obtained evidence either, so challenging the warrant later on will be pointless. Oh, and you might be in a reasonable EU country and still be hit with an EIO from one of the unreasonable countr…

> How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review?

(IANAL.) This was reviewed by the courts themselves:

> The CJEU confirmed that the Belgian, French and Swedish prosecutors were sufficiently independent from the executive to be able to issue EAWs. […]

> […] Public prosecutors will qualify as an issuing judicial authority where two conditions are met: […]

> 2. Second, public prosecutors must be in a position to act in an independent way, specifically with respect to the executive. The CJEU requires that the independence of public prosecutors be organised by a statutory framework and organisational rules that prevent the risk of prosecutors being subject to individual instructions by the executive (as was the case with the German prosecutor). Moreover, the framework must enable prosecutors to assess the necessity and proportionality of issuing an EAW. In the French prosecutor judgment, the CJEU specifically indicated that:

* https://www.fairtrials.org/articles/legal-analysis/can-belgi...

The question that the OP asks is fair enough, but there's a lot of subtly and 'low-level' details on how things operate compared to the high-level question that is being asked. Also depends on where the OP lives and what he's used to: common law (UK/US/CA/etc) and civil law procedures and laws are (AIUI) quite different.

Re: Migrating to the EU

#58

Post by FinnKuhn »

jagermo wrote: post #54

Uberspace is solid and a lot of fun to try stuff out. For domains, i would also recommend inwx.com, they have been around for ages, good prices and no-fuzz admin stuff.

The author mentions using them as well, but I personally would have a really hard time trusting any service run by any individual and be it just in case something happens to them.

Re: Migrating to the EU

#59

Post by teekert »

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #3

Codeberg is only for FOSS projects. Is there some good European hosting provider for git? I really don't want to self host git.

Uhm, is it? I have some small repos there, which are private and for my company (ie the website). I didn't encounter any warnings?

Edit, it says indeed (right in your face on the front page):

Codeberg is a non-profit, community-led effort that provides services to free and open-source projects, such as Git hosting.

I just click... click opened a repo and set it as remote and boom. Never thought anything of it... Perhaps I'm... Tolerated for the time being?

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