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>The weird part to me is that some people are seemingly trying to downplay a popular website abusing visitors to DDoS someone. What's the true, practical impact being downplayed here?
You cannot seriously argue that performing a DDOS on a website, and causing other people to participate in it unwittingly, is a-ok.
It's obviously not "a-ok". It's just "meh", a silly childish tantrum.
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Jani Patokallio who runs gyrovague.com published a blog post attempting to dox the owner of archive.today. Jani justifies his doxing as follows "I found it curious that we know so little about this widely-used service, so I dug into it" [1] Archive.today on the other hand is a charitable archival project offered to the public for free. The operator of Archive.today risks significant legal liability, but still offers…
>It's weird to see people getting fixated on the DDoS, which is obviously far less nasty than actually attempting to dox someone. I would say the opposite... The DDoS is pretty obviously ridiculous, completely unacceptable, and entirely indefensible, while the blog post seems like whatever. I honestly cannot fathom defending using your popular website as a tool to DDoS someone you have personal beef with, without the…
The DDoS hasn't even successfully taken the website down, so your objection is entirely ideological.
It's a pretty messed up ideology if attempting to take down a website is worse than potentially subjecting someone to violence by attempting to dox them and sharing your work.
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Lmao, did you just start bickering with yourself? Or, wow, you just revealed your second account.
Yea, reading through the page, these two accounts have been sounding exactly the same. I suppose it is in line with the childish behavior of AT.
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You’re just not at all familiar with the subject. Archive.org is awful . It allows site owners and random third parties to edit old archived pages. Archive.today does not.
Is it that much better that Archive.today reserves the right to edit old archived pages for the owner whenever they have a petty grudge with someone? At least site owners have the copyright on the pages that Archive.org saves. They can just get the content pulled through DMCA anyway.
The operator of archive.today (presumably one, at most a handful of people) can edit archived pages on archive.today
Literally anyone can edit archived pages on archive.org.
There are literally at least hundreds of thousands of tampered archives on archive.org. How is that not worse than the couple of tampered archives on archive.today?
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Doxxing is illegal? I am against it but if it's republishing public info I don't think it can be illegal in the US unless there is an intent element.
The blog author is in Finland, so it's covered by the Article 8 right to privacy of the ECHR. The exact implementation is country dependent, I don't know how it works in Finland but in the UK we just extended the common law tort of "Breach of confidence" to it.
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I'm wondering if Jani is possibly going to walk into the wrong party here and get burned. I did some public archival stuff about a decade ago and it was state sponsored and for the intelligence community. I'm not suggesting this is but it'll be very much of interest to competing intelligence services as it's an information control point. None of those are the sort of people you start pissing off by sticking your dick…
Why would stuff for the intelligence community be made public? Wouldn’t it make more sense for them to keep it private?
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> Or are we just looking at an unhinged fan stalking their favorite online celebrity? In this case, question is recursive. I have no idea who Jani Patokallio or gyrovague.com are, and the way Jason Drury shifts from “tried to dox” to “doxx’d” makes me wonder if this is astroturfing by Jani or Jason or a 3rd party. Who knows!
>the way Jason Drury shifts from “tried to dox” to “doxx’d” I double-checked all my comments, that never happened.