This is interesting but I am not surprised. People got used to spammers putting in zero effort because it's a game of scale for them. Well now zero effort still gets them all the way there when it comes to looking convincing.
They’re vibe-coding spam now
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#22Blacklisting Phone numbers and IP are gonna become extreme now, to the point it wont allow any unknown number/email without `karma` to reach anyone.
I don't understand why something like this exists natively on phones. If someone calls from an unknown number, they get some sort of captcha to prove that they are a human, or they matter is important. For example, the message should say that, if you are geniune, then please call again after 1 minute..
That already exists, it's "voicemail". The scammers never leave a voice mail (idk why). If a real person is trying to reach you, they'll either leave a voice mail or text you after you don't pick up.
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand why something like this exists natively on phones. If someone calls from an unknown number, they get some sort of captcha to prove that they are a human, or they matter is important. For example, the message should say that, if you are geniune, then please call again after 1 minute..
That already exists, it's "voicemail". The scammers never leave a voice mail (idk why). If a real person is trying to reach you, they'll either leave a voice mail or text you after you don't pick up.
Many spammers leave a prerecorded voicemail, they call quickly from 2 numbers so they can slide into your voicemail instantly without ringing more than once
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've noticed a gigantic uptick in text messages and phone calls where people try to bypass the call screening. It may get to the point where I'll only want to see comms from people in an allowlist.
I don't answer the phone from anyone I don't know. If it is something important, they'll find a way to reach me.
Unfortunately when you are on the job search every call can be important
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#25Leaders in the email security space have been seeing this for a while now [0], this is not new. The problem is the means to protect consumer mailboxes outside of Gmail, isn't cost effective since most people do not actually pay for their consumer mailbox and the impacts of compromised accounts do not actually impact the providers. It is going to be interesting to see how this plays out in the consumer space as the complexity of the problem continues to grow while the technology used to stop it stays in the early-2010s.
[0] https://siliconangle.com/2023/12/19/new-report-warns-rise-ai...
Re: They’re vibe-coding spam now
#26At this point, if you give out your email and not aliases; it is on YOU.
Did you read the article? It was about how the spam is less interesting now when the person had typically enjoyed reading spam emails.
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#27I thought the “sponsored by nobody” thing to donate through was another example of the spam at first.
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#28But is this something new? Wasn't using AI for scamming around for a long time?
Scammers started using LLMs to write fishing emails, then scammers started generating images, then they started using AI to vibe code it. Its just a natural progression.
From https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47435156, we can know that India has a ~70% positive view on AI. While scammers likely didn't fill out the survey, it shows the general view on AI from where most scammers work from and live.
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#29For years I’ve read people claim that the reason spam emails were low quality was to filter for idiots. If the spammers are now reaching for coding agents to clean up the presentation, it seems that theory was bunk.
Re: They’re vibe-coding spam now
#30For years I’ve read people claim that the reason spam emails were low quality was to filter for idiots. If the spammers are now reaching for coding agents to clean up the presentation, it seems that theory was bunk.
That theory was always bunk. People just can't comprehend, that the average spammer really is that bad. So that theory was created to make sense of that.
Because of my work I investigated a lot of spam, and I discovered real life identities of senders in many cases (because of horrible or no exostent opsec). Most of them were either underage, lived in third world countries, or both.