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Re: An industrial piping contractor on Claude Code [video]

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How is a mechanical engineer a “trade worker.” Most engineers have to take at least one programming class in college.

I didn’t read the article but if he is really an actual mechanical engineer then this is not that interesting. Mechanical engineers build a lot of technical software. Most fluid dynamics code or vibration code is probably written by mechanical engineers. Now, some times people say “mechanical engineer” but they don’t mean someone that studied FFTs.

Re: An industrial piping contractor on Claude Code [video]

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"Lol", do you think in lols or do you ever sit and consider something more deeply? Or maybe you think adding a lol makes the other side's argument ridiculous and yours stronger? Skipping the lols, here's the answer to your question: doesn't matter if developers "are already commodities" to some degree. First, because that degree is small, else developers wouldn't command such high salaries relative to other trades. S…

> developers wouldn't command such high salaries relative to other trades. lololol something can be a commodity and still expensive. to wit: have you heard of this thing called oil which is recently very expensive? > do you think in lols or do you ever sit and consider something more deeply? i think deeply enough to recognize when someone's reasoning is so flawed they should've almost immediately reconsidered their c…

>lololol

Go to Reddit, it would be a better fit. Or maybe 9gag.

>something can be a commodity and still expensive. to wit: have you heard of this thing called oil which is recently very expensive?

Which is irrelevant. That coding services are already a product for sale is a given.

We're not talking about commodification in the "something becoming an object that can be sold" sense. We're talking about commodification in the sense of a product being made generic and cheapened. If you didn't pick this up by now, further discussion is pointless.

Re: An industrial piping contractor on Claude Code [video]

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Apprentices are considered commodities here

Lol you think developers aren't already commodities? You joking? edit: i love how this is getting downvotes but no further responses. y'all are in denial. let me ask you this: why is the most common interview loop round a generic LC round? lolol

Like all things it’s a spectrum. Many developers (most these days) are a commodity. The truly talented are not, and are uniquely good at their specializations.

Just like tradesman. A generic electrician journeyman for residential break/fix work is more or less a commodity these days. A specialized electrician who is known to be an expert at rehabbing 150 year old knob and tube wiring on a historical mansion is not.

It’s interesting to me how developers fought so hard to commodify themselves though? When I started my career in my early teens no one at all put jobs up for a “programmer” - it was nearly always a “C programmer” or “COBOl programmer” and most developers focused on one or two languages as experts. Then there was usually even further specialization on top of that as well!

Sometime after the dot com boom devs decided that if you were a developer worth anything at all you could pick up any language and be productive in it within weeks or months in nearly any role or industry. I’ve always thought this was insane.

Re: An industrial piping contractor on Claude Code [video]

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Space pen is also an incredibly reliable pen here on earth too. Highly suggest people grab one.

Overpriced for what it is - there are pressurized tank pens starting at $4, a lot more ergonomic too.

Oh neat had no clue

Re: An industrial piping contractor on Claude Code [video]

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”The current market share of custom-built homes is approximately 19% of total single-family starts” https://www.nahb.org/blog/2025/08/custom-home-building-grows...

New multifamily construction in the US that has to undergo design review is arguably fairly custom in that each site will have different requirements. I think it's fair to say that commoditization is a spectrum?

The structure of most residential construction in the US is standardized. Foundation (or slab), wood framing, etc. There are different levels of quality, but codes and standards mean that standardization is the norm.

Re: An industrial piping contractor on Claude Code [video]

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The guy from the story, it’s just another developer starting from a different trade, pretty normal across our history, musicians, lawyers that discovered that they were good at computers. The conclusion is flawed, not anyone can endure what this person did, sit at a terminal, going back and forward until something is finished. That’s what a SW dev does. My conclusion, many more people will discover that they are good…

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Re: An industrial piping contractor on Claude Code [video]

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Writing is a tool, a technology. Much like hammers or saws, which are also commodified. And even though anyone can go buy a saw, not everyone is a carpenter.

> Writing is a tool, a technology. Like paint, it can be used as a tool, to paint your house, or as a craft and artform, to paint the Rouen Cathedral.

Paint is a tool to deposit pigment on a substrate. The tool does not make the artist.

Re: An industrial piping contractor on Claude Code [video]

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This sounds like "no true Scotsman..."

More like the inverse. No true Scotsman seeks to remove someone from belonging to a group to keep the group pure, because no true member of that group could act in such a way. This is adding people to a group that they would otherwise be excluded from. It seeks to expand the definition of the group to include the outsiders.

so, “yes false Scotsman”?

Re: An industrial piping contractor on Claude Code [video]

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New multifamily construction in the US that has to undergo design review is arguably fairly custom in that each site will have different requirements. I think it's fair to say that commoditization is a spectrum?

tract != multifamily

I was not talking about tract housing. Where I live there is no tract housing construction.
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