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All countries publicly understate the max range that their missiles can go. This is generally understood in the defense community.
What's the point? Naively one would think it is the opposite.
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Not really. Because no one in Europe wants to bomb Iran into oblivion, if for no other reason but the fact that the Europeans (and Turkey) would face another massive refugee crisis. The only people wanting to continue this war are the U.S. and Israel (and maybe Saudi Arabia?) and even Trump is clearly looking for an off ramp. This is most likely a way for Iran to tell Europe to do what they can to end this otherwise…
> and maybe Saudi Arabia? The war is extremely bad for business for Saudi Arabia and has already cost them enormous amounts of money. It is causing damage to their oil refineries that will take years to repair. The only person who gains anything out of this is Netanyahu and his friends. Everyone else loses, including the Israeli people.
According to journalists, it was Saudis who have been trying for a long time to convince Trump to attack Iran.
Sunni vs. Shia, there is a history there.
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> whether or not Iran would limit themselves to military targets This question has long been answered
How is it? So far they seem to be trying to hit actual non-civilian targets. Missing with the rockets on intended targets is a different matter. And yes, hitting offices with American financial institutions or hotels with American soldiers in them is fine.
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Even if their actions might not precisely meet some dictionary definition of "carpet bombing", you know well what I meant - civilians and civilian infrastructure are being deliberately targeted with complete disregard for loss of life and environmental consequences.
That’s called war. You’re parroting IRGC propaganda, which is why people are arguing with you. “We are innocent civilians and the Israelis are carpet bombing us”… said by the people that funded October 7th and killed more of their own people than the Israeli bombs did. Iran’s government has been violently belligerent for decades, and continues to this day to bomb its Arab neighbours including hitting their civilians!…
What exactly are Iran supposed to do here? Just give up, allow their country to be infested with ISIS and Al Qaeda, allow their country balkanised, their citizens massacred indiscriminatly?
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Why would that be?
Religion extremism
Such "religious extremism" that they've plainly had the capability to end Israel for many years, and yet have shown incredible restraint?
No, there are religious extremists involved for sure, but mostly of the Israeli variety.
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We have Joe Kent on mic saying Iran was not building nukes and posed no threat to the US. The only people saying Iran was just about to get nukes are the Israelis, who've been saying that every 5 years for the last 40 years, and the only people who fell for it are magatards I don't understand how people fall for this shit after the Iraq war scam, which was essentially the exact same propaganda
Well, maybe you have a plausible explanation for why Iran needed 60%-grade enriched uranium -- now that we've firmly established that it clearly was not for building nukes .
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Do the missiles Iran has been raining down on other countries for decades not count as WMDs?
No. “ A weapon of mass destruction is a nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological, or other device that is intended to harm a large number of people” https://www.dhs.gov/topics/weapons-mass-destruction .
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Like what is happening now, completely decimating their army, navy, and air force. If that isn't enough, destroy their only source of revenue (oil fields), or go even further and destroy their electrical grid and send the country back to the stone age. Finally, if the regime does not surrender after all this, a nuke could still be used.
Think about what you're saying. That causes hundreds of thousands of deaths of innocent civilians. Suffering of millions. Weren't you supposed to help the Iranian people? This is the opposite.
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It should be noted that Iran has claimed to have sunk the USS Lincoln and to have captured several US soldiers, among other creative interpretations of reality To take the claims at face value, local governments that has an interest to shift blame on Israel, do not believe Iran, due to their own radar data
It should be noted that, contrary to your, erm, creative interpretation of reality, that Iran has claimed to have struck the USS Lincoln, not sank it. And where is the radar data that proves missiles were launched towards Diego Garcia, let alone from Iran? Iran BTW say this wasn't them - and as they say in advance where they'll strike, I'm more inclined to believe them than the deranged Trump, Netanyahu et al.
I was mistaken, sinking it was a claim by IRGC influence networks, not official statement. However official Iranian statements have claimed to have hit the USS Lincoln with 4 ballistic missiles, which is also an amazing lie considering these missiles accuracy and the state of the Lincoln.
Other nonsense claims apart from the "captured" US soldiers by Iranian officials is the claim of 100 dead US troops (https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603051892)
My point still stands, the Iranian regime has a different standard of truth than most people. Its lies are wild and non-subtle, I wouldn't put a lot of faith on any of those.
Regarding radar data, these is the evidence countries have when approaching such a situation. You can safely assume that a country like Qatar or Turkey for example that finance Hamas, have no vested interest to believe Israel over Iran. The problem is even they have some limit to being spit on and calling it rain